Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of films about capital punishment


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. --Core desat 06:21, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

List of films about capital punishment

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The criteria for inclusion is "containing" as well as "about" making this another indiscriminate "about" list. Bulldog123 04:42, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Just like Bulldog says, the "containing" part is what makes this list have no real encyclopedic value. An article with this title could exist if there are enough film that qualify under "about"  Citi Cat   ♫ 04:51, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep, change criteria to "about" with the edit button, remove films "containing" in the same way. Kappa 05:58, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I considered going that way, but as there's no actual info on any of the movies in this list, it would probably be easier to just start with a blank slate than to go over every entry.  Citi Cat   ♫ 16:34, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

etc. Truth be told, there are quite a few great films that truly are ABOUT capital punishment, in that they contribute to the debate... the film adaptation of Melville's Billy Budd, The Green Mile, 12 Angry Men, etc. The table listing the year it came out and the director doesn't improve anything. When you include the cubic zirconia, you can't see the diamonds. Mandsford 17:09, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Articles that can be improved by editing should not be deleted; deletion should be reserved for cases where the topic itself could not be included in an encyclopedia.RandomCritic 06:09, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletions.  Kappa 05:58, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete: Another indiscriminate, messy list without encyclopedic value.  RGTraynor  13:39, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per RGT above. Eusebeus 15:52, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. I'm not in favor of many of the lists that go to AFD, but this one seems to be of narrow enough criteria with potential to be of use to researchers. As noted, can be improved; doesn't have to be deleted. 23skidoo 18:58, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Legitimate topic for a list. Would like to see redlinks filled in, or citations provided for their addition. Recurring dreams 22:42, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete suffers from the same malady of nearly every "film about": how much about the film must be (and if the criteria listed in the article is to be taken, not much), and what WP:RSes tell us it's at least that much. So herein we group every film where someone walks the plank or faces capital punishment, like Peter Pan or Pirates of the Carribean, with films depicting the Passion. Seems indiscriminate.  On that latter point, the execution of Jesus probably forms a huge (sub-)genre by itself. Carlossuarez46 21:26, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, WP:NOT a directory of loosely associated topics, many of these film aren't even about capital punishment, they just happen to feature it as part of the storyline. Little encyclopedic use. Crazysuit 01:45, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak delete While I like the concept, this list suffers from the usual problem in any list of "____ about ____" which is that someone wants to include everything. Thus, The Dirty Dozen (about condemned prisoners recruited for a mission) is in here; a film about the hanging judge, Roy Bean; My Cousin Vinny (Joe Pesci defending someone from death penalty); In Cold Blood (killers get the death penalty), The Passion of the Christ (yes, my hero gets the cross),
 * Weak delete While I like the concept, this list suffers from the usual problem in any list of "____ about ____" which is that someone wants to include everything. Thus, The Dirty Dozen (about condemned prisoners recruited for a mission) is in here; a film about the hanging judge, Roy Bean; My Cousin Vinny (Joe Pesci defending someone from death penalty); In Cold Blood (killers get the death penalty), The Passion of the Christ (yes, my hero gets the cross),
 * Keep on the basis of Mandsford's good argument for keeping and editing. Once we start deleting every article that has nonnotable content instead of the editing out the non-notable content, there wont be much of WP left. I  think i could probably find at least 2 items of NN content in  about half the clearly notable articles, including almost every bio of a pop culture figure & a lot of the sports people and the writers. We could remove them all, and start WP all over again from scratch.    DGG (talk) 08:23, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete -- Indiscriminate list with a mostly trivial connection. Saikokira 20:53, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep --PEAR (talk) 15:17, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.