Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of films about outer space


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 00:15, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

List of films about outer space

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Unreferenced. Although it specifically excludes non-notable films, it is still very long and likely to be grossly incomplete. I found no evidence of a comprehensive list online, but there are a number of "best" lists with this scope such as. – Laundry Pizza 03  ( d c&#x0304; ) 20:00, 13 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep We cannot legitimately delete a list of things, all with internal links, just on the grounds that it is unreferenced. The references are in these internal links! While the list is probably currently incomplete, it will eventually gain more and more titles. And there are no comprehensive list online because this is the comprehensive list, made in a period of 13 years by the power of voluntary contributions, which no one else will be able to make. Emass100 (talk) 20:44, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Of course we can, per WP:BURDEN alone. Lists too will need to be referenced. WP:LONGTIME is not an argument. Wikipedia is not about WP:EVERYTHING soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 15:31, 14 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep Science-fiction is a big aspect of many people's lives. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:53, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Even if true, that's not an argument. We're discussing List of films about outer space, not science fiction. soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 15:31, 14 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep, per above comments. The topic is fine. Randy Kryn (talk) 21:28, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The two above comments are both WP:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 15:31, 14 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete - fundamentally, its a duplication of the Category:Films set in outer space and its subcategories. Some attempts have been made to add notes of significance, but the notes don't tend to amount to more than trivia unrelated to the reason those items were included in the list. -- Netoholic @ 22:08, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and rename List of films set in outer space. It probably needs to be split up into sublists, e.g. List of films set on Mars, List of films set on the Moon, List of films set on space stations, etc., as there are a lot more than are listed, but that's a separate issue. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:15, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk &bull;&#32;mail) 03:21, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk &bull;&#32;mail) 03:21, 14 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. There are literally hundreds of films that could be catergorised as being "about outer space". There does not appear to be any clear inclusion criteria. I concur with Clarifyfiend that the list might be suitable in subcategories but I don't support the article as it is. Ajf773 (talk) 03:30, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, WP:OR and/or WP:SYNTH. Is 2001: A Space Odyssey "about" outer space? Is Spaceballs? The Star Wars films? I beg to differ: these science fiction films are set in outer space, they're not about outer space. Trivial nonsense, not encyclopedic. soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 15:31, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep as a notable list which makes clear that it includes films about as well as set in outer space, no need to refbomb it as there are plenty of confirming refs on the linked articles. It is also popular with the public with an average of 570 page views a day. Atlantic306 (talk) 18:07, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Refbomb? It hasn't got a single reference. What's the point, the encyclopedic value of having the list? It has no information whatsoever, beyond the fact that certain films are set in outer space. "X in Y" is not informative. soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 18:48, 14 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete Overly broad list, per WP:LISTCRUFT. It's unclear what "about outer space" actually means. Set in outer space? Mentioning it? For what portion of the run time? Seems arbitrary. For example, I'd argue that Alien is about an alien and the main character's fight to survive, not about outer space. Battlestar Galactica is about a ship's attempts to flee genocidal robots, not outer space.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 12:43, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per Clarity. w umbolo   ^^^  11:43, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Another non-argument: how does WP:CLARITY apply here? soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 09:32, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
 * was referring to this not WP:CLARITY. w umbolo   ^^^  13:54, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
 * My apologies,, I didn't put those two together. soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 15:01, 20 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment. is WP:BLUDGEON-ing every single "keep" vote.  w umbolo   ^^^  13:55, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Not entirely true, I didn't comment on Clarityfriend's vote. I don't see the benefit in their proposal, but it's not an unsubstantiated vote based upon personal preference. I've seen plenty of deletion discussions where the closer didn't look at arguments, but on a vote count (keep because "Science-fiction is a big aspect of many people's lives"? C'mon). Feel free to engage my other comments though! soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 15:01, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Perhaps editors participating in this debate could answer the question whether the concept of "films about outer space" is notable or not. If it is, this list should be kept. If it isn't, this is listcruft.
 * Delete, redundant to category, misleading (films set in space aren't "about" space, much like films set on Earth aren't "about" Earth").  Sandstein   10:09, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 14:57, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I notice there's a Category:Films set in outer space with subcategories. I'm pretty sure even trying to present a list of films set in outer space will present WP:DIRECTORY. – TheGridExe  ( talk )  15:26, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, this list should be a category. In fact, there IS a category: Category:Films about outer space Vadder (talk) 15:59, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete -- I have seen actually potentially useful lists get quickly deleted because they are "just lists". This is a list with no clear criteria for inclusion and no informative value.
 * Delete, specifically because of the word "about". These films are not about outer space, they take place there. said it first and said it best.  Sock   ( tock talk)  18:33, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Easily defined topic and having a category of the same name, is not a valid rationale for deletion. The "about" vs. "takes place in" is taken care of in name change, no deletion. References can be easily migrated from the main articles. --RAN (talk) 01:12, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't see why a page is needed when a category exists.--QueerFilmNerd (talk) 05:20, 23 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete- there doesn't seem to be a useful reason to replicate the category, the list is extraordinarily crufty, and the whole concept hinges on the ambiguity between films that are set in space and films in which space is the major focus. Reyk YO! 10:22, 23 May 2018 (UTC)


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