Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of films set around Mardi Gras


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The result was delete. ✗ plicit  03:48, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

List of films set around Mardi Gras

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An unsourced collection of thumbnail plot summaries of films set in or around Mardi Grad. It has the same issues as the recently deleted List of films set around Oktoberfest. The article claims that this is a genre of film when it isn’t it’s just a setting. It’s a sort of fan’s list but there’s no indication that the list has any basis in film scholarship or other reliable sources. There are a few “top-ten” type listicles online but that’s all I found. I don’t believe this is a valid list article. Mccapra (talk) 22:34, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

I offer the following counterarguments to deletion: 1. Do the other comparable "List of films set around holidays" have scholarly attribution than the lists I have proposed? For example, List of films set around May Day, List of films set around Mother's Day, List of films set around New Year, and List of films set around Valentine's Day are all unattributed and yet they were not targeted for deletion. Why should the List of films set around Mardi Gras require scholarly attribution beyond popular online listicles attributing them to the holiday of Mardi Gras? What type of attribution would be considered sufficient to prevent deletion and in what timeline would attribution be required? I have a full-time job unrelated to film, so I have limited time to do scholarly research on this topic or to reach out to film scholars for aid. 2. Clearly some people watch films about Halloween every year in October, about Thanksgiving in November, and Christmas in December. I believe these additional holiday-related film lists would inspire others to view films set around other holidays of the year as I have been inspired to do. Many of the online holiday film listicles are incomplete in scope and focus on the most recent films at the time of the online publication of the listicle. By compiling a more comprehensive curated list of films from several listicles, the various lists about films set around holidays provides a service to Wikipedia users. 3. In the interest of fairness and inclusion Wikipedia has an obligation to be unbiased in its coverage of films set around all holidays that are not exclusively celebrated in the United States or predominantly by Christians. The holiday of Mardi Gras/Carnival/Fasnacht is celebrated by multiple European countries and their former colonies. Wikipedia entries that encourage users to move beyond their own holidays and ethnocentrism would promote tolerance and understanding of other cultural practices. Beyond my efforts, I believe that international editors should be recruited to fill the gap in films set around holidays celebrated in India, China, Japan, etc. (examples described in this TV series https://smile.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B07L4C5YWH/ref=atv_hm_hom_1_c_myhimm_2_2) that will most likely be non-English language films.GMBuchold (talk) 01:08, 12 January 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  00:05, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Mccapra (talk) 22:34, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Mccapra (talk) 22:34, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Louisiana-related deletion discussions. Mccapra (talk) 22:34, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * - Note to closer for soft deletion: This nomination has had limited participation and falls within the standards set for lack of quorum. There are no previous AfD discussions, undeletions, or current redirects and no previous PRODs have been located. This nomination may be eligible for soft deletion at the end of its 7-day listing.
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 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete - no references, dubious topic, contacted the page creator GMBuchold about their (now deleted) List of films set around Oktoberfest to discuss whether it's a good idea to create pages like this, no response. Mujinga (talk) 00:11, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete since I agree with Mujinga that this a dubious topic. A lot of the movie summaries don't even say what the movies have to do with Mardi Gras and "around Mardi Gras" could literally mean anything. So this goes against the guidelines for lists. Maybe List of films set at Mardi Gras would work though. I don't really know, but my inclination is to think it wouldn't. Either way, this list doesn't work. BTW, I think this kind of list does for something like List of films set around Valentine's Day because like someone else stated Valentine's Day movies are a genre, but Mardi Gras movies aren't. So they aren't really comparable. --Adamant1 (talk) 06:57, 21 January 2022 (UTC)


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