Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of fire districts in Barnstable, Massachusetts


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The result was delete. Davewild (talk) 12:23, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

List of fire districts in Barnstable, Massachusetts

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non-notable departments. Poorly organized cluttered page. Significant lack of sources. Zackmann08 (talk) 04:48, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. North America1000 07:38, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete: Just when you thought it wasn't possible for an article to get more insignificant ... fails the GNG, obviously, is completely non-notable, lacks any non-primary sources, and not only is Wikipedia still not a web host, it looks like the several fire districts each have their own websites. What's the purpose of this article?   Ravenswing   10:07, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment I just created the page from a bunch of proded articles, so I was going to try to expand it a bit more so that it makes more sense. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:21, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Reply: Err ... I'd figure the articles were prodded for a reason, and probably the same reasons proffered here. I can't imagine there being reliable sources attesting to the notability of anything here, or anything that wouldn't fail WP:GEOSCOPE about a list article, or anyone who'd care about this outside of Barnstable residents ... and if I was one who wanted fire district info, I'd go to the town website instead of Wikipedia.   Ravenswing   02:55, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Reply: I whole heartedly agree. There is nothing notable about these departments and combining them all into a list page with 4 separate infoboxes (NONE of which is souced by the way) just looks terrible. Just delete the page and move on. --Zackmann08 (talk) 03:36, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete but I would like content to be at Barnstable, Massachusetts. Neutralitytalk 05:27, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment I think Neutrality is right. The content could and should just be in a sub section of the Barnstable, Massachusetts page. --Zackmann08 (talk) 05:42, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: It might merit a single sentence in the Government section of the main article, but no more than that. Interestingly enough, there's a Barnstable Police Department article, created by the same editor, with the same messy and trivia-cluttered infobox, and sourced only to the PD's own website.  Looks like the next AfD target, or else worth a redirect to the town article.   Ravenswing   07:13, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. Very obscure article, clearly fails any test of notability.AusLondonder (talk) 06:23, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete – No indication subject meets the WP:GNG. Hirolovesswords (talk) 21:54, 1 May 2015
 * Delete much too obscure to merit an article. Mellowed Fillmore (talk) 04:47, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge. The fire districts, departments and stations do appear to receive significant coverage in GBooks and elsewhere. Try searching for Barnstable+"Fire department"/"fire district"/"fire station", and similar variations, in GBooks and the rest of Google, and you'll see what I mean. I'm inclined to think the set of fire districts notable, though I'm not sure "list of fire districts" is the best way to present them. It is fairly obvious, from the "no sources other than the department's own website" claims above, that at least some participants above have not a BEFORE search for sources. I'm also seeing invalid arguments about "obscurity", which has nothing to do with notability. James500 (talk) 23:55, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: I note that for your talk of "significant coverage," you've neither proffered any qualifying sources here nor provided any to the article. That's because coverage satisfying WP:GEOSCOPE, WP:ORG or WP:ROUTINE doesn't exist: Barnstable + "fire district" (which I'd tried, thank you ever so) returns casual mention hits from only the town's weekly newspaper and a Cape Cod news aggregator website, largely along the lines of "The Hyannis Fire District Annual Meeting is Wednesday, May 20, at 7 p.m. at Barnstable High School."  After looking at a couple dozen GBooks hits, I've yet to see anything beyond a casual reference, even in the Images of America Cape Cod Firefighting, which you think would if any book did.  As far as merging goes, I've no objection to a list of fire districts in the town government section of the Barnstable article; a sentence is all that merits, and I can't imagine anyone objecting to you adding one to the Barnstable article.   Ravenswing   06:57, 8 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete/redirect to town article. Fails WP:GNG. Wikipedia is not a big directory or list of things that exist. WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Elgatodegato (talk) 19:50, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: I found news coverage of a non-trivial event regarding this! A disputed fire district election! http://www.barnstablepatriot.com/home2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=38980&Itemid=30 Orthogonal1 (talk) 21:11, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
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