Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of firearms in first-person shooters


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was no consensus (should of closed it at that yesterday since there were 13 votes). Ichiro 15:16, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

List of firearms in first-person shooters
Listcruft, list of some weapons in some first-person shooters, with links to articles on the real weapons. Wikipedia is not gamefaqs.com WP:NOT (half of them from WWII themed shooters and the other half pretty much made up of various MP5 variants etc). Scoo 15:59, 6 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep. It can be a useful list in giving a user who knows nothing about games a taster on the types of weaponary in games. It also looks like quite a bit of work has gone into research and creating the list, which is a shame to go to waste. Roger Dangerfields 16:04, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
 *  Please note: this user account was created on Jan 5 2006, edits consisted mostly of vandalism and was subsequently blocked on Jan 6 2006 (Block log), note by Scoo 21:54, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

COLOR="#FFC000">nd 16:57, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep of considerable interest to gamers and firearms enthusiasts. The fact that we have articles on most of them confirms both the interest in them and the need for useful lists and cross-referencing. Andrew Lenahan - Starbli<FONT


 * Comment what this list provide is a selection of weapons in 17 computer/video games (and 2 computer game mods). User Just zis Guy, you know? say it very well here why some lists fit wery well on Wikipedia, while others do not. Some of the content in the list might be summarized in a proper article on first-person shooter weapons, provided that it is backed up by facts & findings from sources such as www.gamestudies.org and similar. On a sidenote, today most games can be modded or receive expansion packs etc. that add new content to games. Thus, a list such as this serve little purpose on Wikipedia. Scoo 19:14, 6 January 2006 (UTC)


 * delete as per nom. DES (talk) 17:04, 6 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Weak delete . Why those particular selected FPSs? It seems completely arbitrary. Of course without that distinction, the list would be incredibly long. If kept, article should be moved to somewhere like List of firearms in first-person shooters based on real-life firearms. --Last Malthusian 19:59, 6 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep. I say it's a nice comprehensive list, however several game articles have a weapons list that should be put into this article. Also, I've put a LOT of work into the article, and to see it removed would make me disappointed. Maybe a rename such as List of real-life weapons in video games could work? Because then we don't have to limit it to just first-person shooters, and maybe third-person shooter games (and certain other games such as Resident Evil) could be listed as well. TonicBH 20:34, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment. Since I didn't want the work to be wasted, some of the pages that didn't have weapon lists or had partial/incomplete ones now have complete weapons lists (see Nightfire, Soldier of Fortune II: Double Helix, Urban Terror). If anyone wishes to add other ones (like for the Call of Duty games, for example), that would help. TonicBH 12:52, 8 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete - This is a list that would become stupidly long. If you realy think it's needed here break it up into sub-lists. List of weapons in realistic FPS games, List of weapons in sci-fi FPS games etc. (Signed: J.Smith) 21:17, 6 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep. Close call and subjective: if this list had been created with less care then I would have deleted and possibly speedied.  It's organized and developed enough to serve as a reference for gaming and firearms enthusiasts.  To the list creator: I suggest conversion into table format. Durova 21:19, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

'This AfD is being relisted to generate a clearer consensus. Please add new discussion below this notice. Thanks!'  --Ichiro 23:50, 12 January 2006 (UTC) child-K|Wrathchild]] (talk) 13:53, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete in current form. Some info could be merged into an encylopaedic article on Weapons in first-person shooters or similar. If this was to continue as is we'd end up with a humongous list. Scoo 21:54, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per all the well reasoned comments above. It's useful to know what guns are used in these games. -- JJay 23:31, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per all delete votes above. The analysis in this article is backwards; under each game it lists the weapons used in that game. That information, if it belongs anywhere in Wikipedia, should appear in the article about the game itself.  If this article were to be useful to anyone, it would be organized by types of weapons and for each type, the games in which that weapon could be found. --Metropolitan90 03:03, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per Metropolitan90. The guns should be listed on the articles of the game its used in. NeoJustin 18:38, January 7, 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Either way, by games or by arms, the list is likely to be too long. JoaoRicardotalk 19:35, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep as valid, interesting, verifiable list. Turnstep 00:47, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Huh? 13 votes, no consensus = keep (normally). Durova 01:15, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I've asked Ichiro to stop these relistings and discuss it on the talk page. The intentions may be good, but it certainly is easy to construe the relistings as an attempt to extend the normal discussion time to reach a desired result (e.g. a clear delete consensus). Turnstep 14:13, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete this should be covered by the indivdual FPS's pages --Pboyd04 02:21, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete unmaintainable list. information should be in individual game articles or maybe in the weapon articles -- Astrokey44 |talk 04:01, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as per all delete votes. Themusicking 04:17, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as silly gamecruft, unencyclopedic. —Cleared as filed. 06:01, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. I can imagine someone being able to present info in a list in a remotely similar way, but not this way. WhiteNight T 06:05, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per Starblind, and I agree with Durova that this should have been closed as a "no consensus" rather than a "relist" when there are 13 votes already. Sjakkalle (Check!)  07:23, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete- listcruft. Reyk 07:48, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep -- Longhair 07:52, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, having interest in firearms myself, I find nothing constructive nor informative in this list. --  Phædriel  *whistle* 10:48, 13 January 2006 (UTC
 * Delete arbitrary list of arbitrary class of object in arbitrary subgenre of games (i.e. not even real life). JzG 13:24, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'm a big FPS fan and I think this list is unmaintainable and not useful. Maybe a list of real-life firearms and what games they've appeared in might be useful, as might an article on notable fictional weapons (the BFG9000 comes to mind). --[[User:Wrath
 * Delete- I' to play these games and don't find this informitive in the "right" way IThink4u 21:22, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.