Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of football clubs in Portugal by major honours won


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The result was Merge to Football in Portugal. Randykitty (talk) 21:34, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

List of football clubs in Portugal by major honours won

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Contested PROD. Still fails WP:OR and WP:SYNTH JMHamo (talk) 16:56, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete - firstly, who is defining what is a "major" honour? Which reliable sources are talking about the topic of 'football clubs in Portugal by major honours won'? I fear we have WP:SYNTH here. GiantSnowman 06:49, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - If you search in portuguese you'll get much more sources. For example this: Rpo.castro (talk) 11:48, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment - That citation pertains only to FC Porto and Benfica, what about the rest? We need extensive coverage to satisfy GNG. JMHamo (talk) 15:55, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - Agree with WP:OR implications of subjective term "major". If no reliable sources are discussing this for all teams then I am not sure the OR issues can be resolved.
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  D u s t i *Let's talk!* 02:31, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Keep, the article needs to be improved, not deleted. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 08:49, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment (I don't care). I don't mind if this gets deleted, and it is probably best to be deleted, as this is yet another fan list that is quite likely not to be maintained in any consistent way (there are already enough half baked football related articles, I say...) BUT note that 1) lists of this kind are perfectly common in yearly sports magazines / reviews (i.e. it is fair to presume that sources exist and are not hard to find) 2) "major" will be surely settled by those sources - and eventually a little discussion to chose here and there. Anyway, 'major' is evident in most cases: competitions organized by the national football federation, which are in general quite easy to know which are (FIFA / UEFA / CAF / ... recognition) 3) There are several other similar articles, better take that in consideration, to avoid too much of different criteria - Nabla (talk) 20:18, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 16:22, 3 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment It's pretty short and, given the nature of Portuguese football with its big club dominance, it's not very likely to get much longer. Still, it is fairly valuable and relevant information that it seems a shame to remove altogether. On that basis would it not be better to merge it into the also fairly short Football in Portugal as a highly relevant section? Keresaspa (talk) 18:06, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge: The proposal from Keresaspa, for me is the best way do solve the"problem". I think this information fits much better in Football in Portugal then along itself.Rpo.castro (talk) 09:18, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
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