Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of foreign Premier League players


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The result was Keep. Carlossuarez46 02:26, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

List of foreign Premier League players

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I just don't see how this is enyclopedic. Yes its intersting and, if tided, could be a good little source of information, but it seems to me like the very definition of 'trivia'. WP:NOT a collection of indiscriminate information... --Pretty Green 18:37, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletions.  -- Pax:Vobiscum 21:26, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep with modifications. I do think that the article is enyclopedic enough to remain an article, but only if it acts as a 'mirror' article to the list of English footballers not playing in England article. Therefore, I think that the article should be modified to only include current foreign players, otherwise, in just a few seasons, this article could be way too long (also, I for one would find it much more interesting if it was only current players). Red  v  Blue  05:34, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. ChrisTheDude 07:10, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - a lot of countries have categories that do this sort of thing (e.g. Non-German footballers in Germany, and this does the job much better. ArtVandelay13 07:35, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Along the same lines as Non-Russian players in Russian Football Premier League 2007 (albeit not year specific), which was deleted yesterday. Number   5  7  10:33, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per ArtVandelay. This is an obvious way to subdivide Premier league players, and self-evidently does the job in a far superior way to a category. The list itself is informative in showing the distribution of countries which supply players. Kappa 16:57, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm the creator of the list and so I won't vote, but I think you're misunderstanding this list (and the MLS one, and the La Liga one, and the Serie A one) and you're comparing it to other brainless lists improperly: I think that AT LEAST the 5 main European Leagues (La Liga, Serie A, Premier League, Bundesliga and Ligue 1) should/could have a similar list. Don't make another witch-hunt. I think Kappa has understood the whole thing properly. --necronudist 17:31, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - I started one of these articles so I won't vote, as necronudist has, but I agree with ArtVandelay and Kappa's points. CAN 18:45, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Textbook example of trivial intersection. See WP:OCAT Corpx 03:37, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That's about categories, not lists; the "CAT" part should give you a clue. Anyway it says to "Avoid intersections of two traits that are unrelated" like "red haired" and "king", not like "Country of origin" and "country where they play". How many newspaper articles are there about red-haired kings? Kappa 05:23, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Where does it say on that page that it is only applicable to categories? I personally think lists should be held to a higher standard.   As for the trivial intersection part, it says to "avoid intersections of two traits that are unrelated".  Being not from England and being a EPL player is something I'd consider as being "two traits that are unrelated" Corpx 05:34, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * These are 4 traits: country A, country B, sport=soccer, level=top. Country A and country B are related traits; top is a non-arbitrary cutoff point per WP:OVERCAT. And if it wasn't restricted by sport, it would kinda lose its focus. Kappa 06:26, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep as it is a good reference page. м info 21:33, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, it's important to reference due to the issues/coverage of the amount of foreign players in England. Englishrose 23:15, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - It is verifiable, and notable. Articles such as this make lists such as these more and more relevant. Neier 23:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, I don't see how this is trivia. I strongly oppose cutting the list down to current players only. Punkmorten 08:09, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment The very large number of foreign players in the Premier League is a reasonably controversial issue that comes up fairly frequently. If the list could be linked with that issue, the number of foreign players shown by season to demonstrate the increase in numbers over time and the list of players itself ordered by season, I would feel easier about this. As it stands, it is a list that does nothing for me. Put it in the context of concern over the number of foreign players in the Premier League, and you have an article imo --Malcolmxl5 09:48, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak delete potentially huge list of players; it might be theorically notable on its own, but it needs several modifications in order to actually make it a reasonable article. --Angelo 21:32, 11 August 2007 (UTC)


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