Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of foreign football players in Vyscha Liha


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The result was Keep Viridae Talk 07:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

List of foreign football players in Vyscha Liha

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 * I also nominate


 * All the list were CURRENT list, not past and present. Compare to List of foreign Serie A players, the year and previous clubs were missing, and all the past players too. It can be replaced by more effective Category:Expatriate football players in Romania, Category:Expatriate football players in Ukraine, Category:Expatriate football players in Greece, Category:Expatriate football players in Bulgaria. Matthew_hk   t  c  09:40, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


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* Strong Delete - I am not convinced that this is useful, or interesting, to anyone. Vyscha_Liha is a football team in the Ukraine, who are hardly well known as a great footballing nation (and certainly not for their domestic competition), as the competition itself has only existed for 17 years. Vyscha Liha is not considered to be notable enough for its own article (it is a redirect to Ukrainian Premier League), therefore it is surely a no brainer that something about who is a foreign player in this obscure side is not relevant either. It just isn't interesting, unless you are an obsessed fan of Vyscha Liha who likes to make lists that nobody else would find interesting. Dyinghappy (talk) 14:50, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. It appears that Vyscha Liha is not a team; rather, it is the Ukrainian name for their "Premier League". See Ukrainian Premier League. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 15:13, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Oops - lost in translation there! Good pick up.  If it were a side, then it should be deleted, but if its for the entire competition, thats another matter entirely.  Dyinghappy (talk) 15:32, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Delete - Ukraine is not a particularly strong footballing country, and the Ukrainian Premier League (also known as Vyscha Liha) has only existed for 17 years. Whilst they do participate in the UEFA cup, something so obscure as who is a foreign player is not particularly relevant, or interesting.  Whilst it does give some indication as to how popular soccer is in Ukraine (as in - because they have foreign players it indicates that they are recognised by foreign countries), this is not particularly exciting, as every country's domestic competition has international players - this is the nature of what football is.  This list really isn't very useful to anyone, other than people who desperately want to find out if Ukraine might one day be more powerful as a football country than they are now.  Far too obscure.  Dyinghappy (talk) 15:32, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You should know that the most important teams in Ukraine, Dinamo and Shakhtar participate almost every year in the UEFA Champions League. You said that the league is not an important one but Dinamo Kiev has won the UEFA Super Cup and two UEFA Cup Winners' Cups; and in 1977, 1987, and 1999 the club reached the semifinals of UEFA Champions League. Mario1987 (talk) 19:42, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Actually there's a pretty good reason why this league has only been in existence for only 17 years, and if you don't know it then I'm not sure that you have the required standard of general knowledge to make any useful contribution to discussions such as this. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:02, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Further comment. As regards Ukraine not being a strong footballing country, UEFA rates the Vyscha Liha as the 11th strongest league in Europe. I don't know of any official world ranking for leagues, but I can't imagine that any non-European leagues outside of Brazil and Argentina would be anywhere near this level, so this is one of the top 13 leagues in the world. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:49, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete for reason above. (GowsiPowsi (talk) 16:47, 3 February 2008 (UTC))
 * Keep but expand to the entire countries in question. I think the lists are far more useful than the corresponding categories, and reduce overcategorisation. ArtVandelay13 (talk) 19:17, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep because this is a current list of foreign football players that are active in the Ukrainian Premier League which is updated regularly. Mario1987 (talk) 19:32, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep all, and expand to incude former players on the lines of List of foreign Serie A players. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:59, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per ArtVandelay13. D.M.N. (talk) 14:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep (provisionally) it needs references.--Sallicio$\color{Red} \oplus$ 05:00, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


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