Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of foreign residents in Japan (December 1941)


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The result was   delete. Secret account 14:39, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

List of foreign residents in Japan (December 1941)

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This seems like a very pointless list. It doesn't really mean anything and it's not notable. WoohookittyWoohoo! 22:50, 30 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. This is listcruft, and there really isn't a point to it; besides, is it even possible to determine all the foreigners, notable or not, who were in Japan in December 1941? TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 23:52, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Keeping would set a bad precedent that would allow articles for "list of in " for which there are infentesimal combinations. - Mgm|(talk) 00:01, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. This page does nothing to establish why a list of foreign residents in Japan in 1941 would be notable. Obviously the outbreak of WWII is intended to be the reason for these people being listed in this manner, but I don't really see the value of it. As an alternative to outright deletion of the content, the names on this list could be put in a new category with this title, but then again there are numerous redlinks. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 05:06, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Per WP:IINFO. This is one of the last survivors of an awful series of Japan in World War II-related listcruft created a few years ago, and should go the same way as the other articles. Nick-D (talk) 07:58, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions.   —Fg2 (talk) 11:42, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unsourced, OR, virtually impossible to verify without violating NOR, and probably would run into the thousands. The fact there's a link to a novel concerns me, as it implies some of the people listed here may in fact be fictional. File under "don't go there". 23skidoo (talk) 16:06, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. The list may not currently assert the notability very well at the moment, but I'd think that interest in knowing the notable (note that a large portion of entries are bluelinks) foreign residents of Japan when it declared war on the USA, bringing it into WWII, would be fairly obvious. —Quasirandom (talk) 17:10, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Have you followed those links? Several of the people in blue links were dead in December 1941 (for instance, Elbert Henry Gary (died 1927) and Frank A. Vanderlip (died in 1937) and others link to the wrong person (eg, Frederic Moore (subject of the article died in 1907), Don Brown (totally the wrong person it would seem), George Kerr (not the right person, died in 1913) and James Cox (link to a generic name, no article on the person in this article aparant)). Others are outright wrong - for instance, Ba Maw was in jail in Burma, the (uncited) article on Joseph Newman (journalist) states that he had managed to leave Japan before war broke out, and it goes without saying that the Chinese leader Chiang Kai-shek wasn't living in Japan at the time as the article claims! As such, the list has massive  WP:V problems. Nick-D (talk) 09:58, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope, hadn't so followed. Those are all individual items to fix, not reasons for deletion. —Quasirandom (talk) 00:30, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


 * keep and fix per Quasirandom's logic. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 17:33, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep but cut out the NN persons from the list. I'd do it myself, but I am not an expert on it. Bearian (talk) 01:06, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


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