Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of gay villages


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was no consensus. Metamagician3000 12:38, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

List of gay villages

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Unverifiable OR. Can't separate truth from high school vandalism. Chris Griswold (  ☎  ☓  ) 04:09, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep These are easily verifiable. The list should include a header or lead-in that defined "gay village" (this may reference the older term "gay ghetto," explain why "gay village" has become a more preferable term, and include the caveat that gay villages are always in flux, as the percentage of gay-identified residents rises or declines. A link to an article about gentrification and gay real-estate trends could be useful. There are many ways to make this page more "official," but let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater! Brent Calderwood 00:29, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Category:Gay villages covers this better, though that may need some investigation as well. Mr.Z-man  talk ¢ 04:18, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom Baristarim 11:53, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep- I think it could be turned into a good article- perhaps by using a different name and setting out what defines a gay village. Thunderwing 13:50, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's unsourced right now, but it is sourceable, and much of it is true.  There are also reasons for maintaining lists separate from categories. Fireplace 14:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - It can be useful; however, for this list everything is going to have to be cited to keep away vandals.  --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 15:05, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong delete . 100% WP:OR and unverifiable.  What someone has done here is put up a list of cities/towns where there is supposedly a large concentration of LGBT people.  Key West, for example, is well known for being a socially liberal sort of town and very open to people of all types, to call it some sort of gay village flies in the face of reason.  Until the Census bureau starts adding "sexual orientation" to their questionnaire there will be no way to qualitatively say what areas are or are not "social centers" for the LGBT community.  I suspect that places like The Castro in San Fransisco - which is fairly well documented as a center for LGBT activities - will be very few and far in between, and when you excise all of the OR and speculation you'll be left with a very small handful of locations that can easily be ported back in to the parent article (which is in dire need of sourcing to clean up the OR there as well).  A r k y a n  &#149; (talk) 15:31, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Response You asked for it, you got it: 2000 Census statistics. Fireplace 16:02, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That's interesting - and I stand corrected. The data tables that hold this information are not easily accessible through the Census website and don't appear in the fact finder tables published, which is why I assumed it was not information that is available.  Curious taht it's buried so deep in there ... anyway, I'll strike my opinion from above, but do maintain that the list needs to be worked on and better referenced, as well as setting some kind of objective inclusion criteria.   A r k y a n  &#149; (talk) 16:27, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep, because I think there's an audience of readers who would probably want to learn more about and improve this article over time. --Wikipedian, Historian, and Friend? 16:38, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * just opined "strong keep" in 27 AFD discussions over a period of 35 minutes, several times with clearly disruptive rationales. Uncle G 16:57, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Very weak keep, some may find it useful, but there are no sources. Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 18:04, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep providing entries can be verified. I know there's an area of Manchester called The Gay Village (centered on and around Canal Street, which has numerous LGBT friendly bars and clubs). I don't know about any other cities that have areas called The Gay Village, but certainly many have areas where most of the LGBT friendly bars are situated. --Darksun 18:35, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Create a corresponding category and delete this list. WP not Yellow pages. No clear criteria for inclusion, no sources etc. A category will serve much better to the end without the mentioned drawbacks.--Ioannes Pragensis 18:30, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong keep can be sourced, is notable, and hardly OR. Carlossuarez46 22:58, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak delete' per WP:NOR and WP:ATT. Article fails to cite sources and it really does seem to be original research. GreenJoe 20:55, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOT, WP:NOR, WP:NPOV. Doczilla 01:11, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. These are no less verifyable than the list of Chinatowns.  To ensure accuracy and consistency, the criteria for inclusion should be better explained on the list page.  The facts supporting the listing should be explained and referenced in the article for the city or neighborhood. -- Beland 23:19, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.