Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of golf courses (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. --Core desat 03:45, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

List of golf courses
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The list is a magnet for all sorts of golf courses, and it does not have criteria for what qualifies as a notable course. The list is long, unwieldy, unmanaged and inconsistent. Its usefulness is unclear, and in my opinion a better list of notable courses is available via Category:Golf clubs and courses. Its previous discussion for deletion ended in a decision to keep, but in my opinion the arguments to keep were not compelling. PKT 22:22, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Adds nothing to what Category:Golf clubs and courses by country already has. Spellcast 22:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Spellcast. Most of the courses listed don't have articles, and so probably aren't notable. The lack of referencing makes it hard to check. Just make sure all the ones with articles are categorized properly, and kill the list. Hersfold (talk/work) 22:49, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - article adds nothing the category doesn't already provide. -- Zim Zala Bim talk  23:31, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete This is the type of list that every single golf course can be put there which would make extremely listcruft and unmaintainable. Categories per countries/provinces/states/territories should be enough.--JForget 00:00, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment It would be difficult to maintain. I imagine that this type of information is collected on other websites, in addition to the category cited by nom; this should be redirected to Category:Golf clubs and courses, per PKT Mandsford 00:16, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Whack it with a crooked stick per nom et al. --Targeman 02:40, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is an indiscriminate collection of information.  The list is also difficult to maintain.  Useight 04:44, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOT - Not a directory (of golf courses).  This is borderline yellow pages level advertisement. Corpx 03:44, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep This article does add to the category, by showing the city in which each golf course is located. The opening sentence clearly says "notable golf courses"; and we surely do have criteria for what is notable. So, if any of the red-linked golf courses are not notable, they can be removed; but the article does not need to be deleted. This is not a directory; a directory would give addresses and phone numbers of the golf courses, and would list them all, not just the notable ones. Nor is it an indiscriminate collection of information, Golf course is an encyclopedic article and the criteria for inclusion in this list is very clear. Finally, a hundred or so editors have been maintaining this list for the last two years, and I see no reason why they wouldn't continue to do so; the WP:CONSENSUS of these editors ought not be overruled by a five-day "discussion" involving less than a dozen or so. DHowell 05:09, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. With all due respect, if "a hundred or so editors have been maintaining this list for the last two years" I would expect it to have a much higher level of quality.  I also don't see those folks voting here yet, although the discussion is still open.  PKT 15:44, 9 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep per DHowell, this does the work of dozens of categories, better. Navigating a bunch of single-entry categories like Golf courses in China, France, India, Jamaica would be awful. Remove red links and courses without articles, that will make it easier to maintain by simply reverting. Alternatively we could let this one go and start again with a clean one from the ground up (although we'd probably be be accused of disruption for doing that) Kappa 10:37, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Holy crap, per JForget, this will never be a manageable list to maintain.  No hope in improving this article, unless one can source EVERY single golf course on this planet.  And Mars too.  --  Wikipedical 01:39, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.