Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of groups identified by the Anti-Defamation League and Hatewatch as hate groups


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The result was   delete. Stifle (talk) 08:49, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

List of groups identified by the Anti-Defamation League and Hatewatch as hate groups

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Useless and poorly-written list article. If people want to find an accurate list of what these organizations consider to be "hate groups", they should go to their respective websites. J332 (talk) 20:27, 19 September 2008 (UTC) 
 * Keep While the article need better sourcing, it is neither useless nor poorly-written and neither of those are valid reasons for deletion. Edward321 (talk) 23:29, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment The article is "not poorly-written"? It's not even an article. It's just a boring list separated by a variety of headings. Even the title is boring and pedantic. --J332 (talk) 23:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment 'Boring' and 'pedantic' are personal opinions.  More important, they are not grounds for deletion. Edward321 (talk) 13:08, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete It would be better to include links to the sites of the two groups in the articles on hategroups, etc. That way readers could get the latest information without WP editors doing extra work to keep the lists constantly updated. WP would also avoid possible liability if a mistake was made and a group wrongly included. Steve Dufour (talk) 00:36, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. This would probably be better implemented as a category or categories. Crypticfirefly (talk) 05:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Combination of two groups in list is bizarre.  What about the Southern Poverty Law Center, etc?  Why these two groups.  Therefore topic is not notable, even though it might be for each group independently... more extreme example... "List of fish species and oil companies"  A list of two things is only notable if the intersection is somehow notable.  --Samuel J. Howard (talk) 17:44, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SOAP. Colonel Warden (talk) 20:47, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  17:35, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  17:35, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Cirt (talk) 00:05, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 13:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete - add the list of groups identified by each organisation to each organisations respective page if its felt to be relevant and verifiable. Can't see any encyclopaedic justification for combining those two particular org's lists into one. -Hunting dog (talk) 16:42, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 'Merge Changing my vote based on Hunting dog's reasoning. Edward321 (talk) 23:58, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. In its present form, this violates WP:SOAP. Eddie.willers (talk) 17:26, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - we might as well have a page dedicated to groups that the KKK considers "hate" groups. 72.72.127.26 (talk) 10:56, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SOAPBOX as well as the above's comment regarding the KKK. The door swings both ways. MuZemike (talk) 14:28, 25 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.