Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of guest characters in video games


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Liz Read! Talk! 06:18, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

List of guest characters in video games

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I think this would fall under WP:INDISCRIMINATE. There's really no practical reason for this list to exist. There is nothing to gain by listing together the cameos in NBA Jam, Lego: The Incredibles, and Dead or Alive 4. There are so many different types of cameos. For example, Sora appearing in a Final Fantasy game is not too unusual given both games are owned by Square Enix. Compare to Freddy Krueger appearing in Mortal Kombat, or Benjamin Franklin in Tony Hawk. TarkusAB talk / contrib 17:38, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions.  TarkusAB talk / contrib 17:55, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree that this is definitely an indiscriminate list, listing guest characters regardless of the game or its notoriety goes against WP:NOTDATABASE - this is more of a job for a directory than Wikipedia. The page violates WP:NOT. Perhaps List of crossovers in video games should also be looked at. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:02, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * (Note: I've started a discussion at Talk:List of crossovers in video games about that article) TarkusAB talk / contrib 19:25, 7 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete Far too many guest characters, a list that will surely continue to grow over time, to be a practical list. Same with the crossover list. Note that discussion of crossovers and guest characters at the crossover article is reasonable with a few well known examples (Super Smash Bros as a crossover fighter, or guest fighters in the new MK) but not an extensive list.
 * M asem (t) 20:48, 7 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Lists.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:28, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom and WP:NOTDATABASE. Conyo14 (talk) 21:31, 7 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I don’t quite understand why this list of guest characters has less reason to exist than the articles listing guest characters from different television shows. There is a whole category (Category:Lists of guest appearances in television) dedicated only to „List of guest characters in [x] series“ articles, which is why I split off this list from the „Guest appearance“ article in the first place. RayanWP (talk) 21:47, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, although a guest appearance by an IRL actor isn't necessarily the same as a video game where it usually boils down to just making a character model and plopping it in. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 22:53, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hm, I see. Then the best course of action might be just to just reverse the split by merging the list back into the video games section of Guest appearance. RayanWP (talk) 07:24, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * You can try and argue that case, but if this is closed as delete, that means the list should not exist anywhere within Wikipedia. TarkusAB talk / contrib 17:58, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Relisting to see if there is any more support for a selective Merge to either Guest appearance or Cameo appearance. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 19:10, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:IINFO. Too many entries to maintain, with most of them unverifiable and arbitrary. Shooterwalker (talk) 02:16, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:INDISCRIMINATE and WP:GAMECRUFT. Ajf773 (talk) 02:49, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak keepor merge to Cameo appearance. That article is very bad too, and both need 95% TNT but that cameo article could benefit from a section on video games, with refs to, or . The three cited listicles suggest this may meet WP:LISTN. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  04:31, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Most of these appearances are beyond a simple cameo, but rather fully playable to the same degree as a non-guest character. TarkusAB talk / contrib 17:35, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment Don't they get media attention for such things? Or is it just passing mention?  Any major game series is going to get coverage that includes mention of their cameos.   D r e a m Focus  07:56, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * They do but it's on a game-by-game basis. There's no reason to list them all together. TarkusAB talk / contrib 17:43, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per Piotr. We definitely don't need a list like this, but video games warrant a mention in the article on cameos. Josh Milburn (talk) 17:01, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Maybe the article with make more sense with a narrower scope (e.g. list of guest characters in fighting games). I am unsure about merging content to cameo appearance because guest characters are legitimate playable characters. OceanHok (talk) 17:09, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: Agree with nom here. Is a case of WP:INDISCRIMINATE. User:Let'srun 19:19, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. While I like the idea of the list, as other commenters have said, it's way too broad as a topic. Pokelego999 (talk) 20:53, 17 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment I just wanted to add that cameo vs. guest appearances can also be varied through Easter egg (media) and the criteria for giving them a proper list appearance in the articles listed by Liz can be boiled down simply to WP:LISTN. My !vote remains the same though and honestly guest appearances in video games should be maintained in their respective "guest" or "game" articles. Conyo14 (talk) 22:47, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete; this list has such an arbitrary and nearly-infinitely-expandable criteria so as to render it virtually unencyclopedic. 2601:204:C901:B740:5068:3FA3:FFAE:B187 (talk) 15:23, 16 August 2023 (UTC)


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