Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of guests that have appeared on Martha (TV series)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. - Bobet 10:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

List of guests that have appeared on Martha (TV series)
Yet another blloody list related to American telvision! This one lists guests on Martha (TV series) and most likely should be merged in with the meagre article about the programme. As with the majority of these lists, it violates both What Wikipedia is not and What Wikipedia is not. Displaced Brit 04:07, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete: if this were around for a while, the list would go on. It is TVcruft. TrackerTV (CW|Castform|Green Valley) 04:22, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * delete per nom Anlace 05:03, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom Park3r 06:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep - I really don't see how this is a directory in any way. It's a list relating to a notable entry. If you don't believe this should be in its own article and should be merged, then AfD is not the right place. It seems you have a vendetta against lists (see User:Displaced Brit) and against those who oppose you (see User talk:CFIF). Lists are not all directories, if you have an issue with them then you should discuss it at Wikipedia talk:Lists, and not just nominate lots and lots of lists for deletion. --Daniel Olsen 07:18, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment/Weak Keep Would it be possible to use this list to create a article catagory? ex: "Person who has appeared on Martha (TV Series)" Alex 07:35, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I think a list would be better to link to from the Martha article. If concensus goes toward deletion however, someone should hurry and do what you suggested. --Daniel Olsen 08:37, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I think that would be considered crufty as well; we had Category:Celebrities who have starred in an episode of Tom Goes to the Mayor on CFD the other week. Guest appearances are a dime a dozen, and not really category-worthy IMO. -- nae'blis 16:27, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * There's one for Ellen (TV series), Category:Ellen (TV_series) guest stars Alex 01:29, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for finding that. Nominating on CFD now. -- nae'blis 03:40, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - It is crufty and would set a bad precedent for other similar articles. For my domain, Live with Regis and Kelly, a list of guest co-hosts is notable because viewers of the show usually expect Regis and Kelly to co-host the show, and a guest co-host can sometimes generate a lot of attention. If this article is kept, I could write an article called List of guests that have appeared on Live with Regis and Kelly, which I am not inclined to do at this point. Tinlinkin 09:36, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, in case my comments above weren't clear enough. -- nae'blis 17:13, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment, well we just kept List of one-time characters from The Simpsons, so how could this (and others) be far behind. Either we put together a well-reasoned approach to these "minor characters" and "guest appearances" lists or we'll look like a popularity contest rather than the collective authors of an encyclopedia. Carlossuarez46 20:30, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Martha is a talk show. Many guests who appear on a talk show are part of a circuit that takes them to other talk shows to promote their latest project (at least in recent trends, I don't know the whole history of this). Therefore, many guests who appear on a talk show are not worth noting. Categories would also probably be inappropriate and unencyclopedic (imagine an actor, say Samuel L. Jackson, to have categories for appearing on The Ellen DeGeneres Show, The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson, The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, Live with Regis and Kelly, Late Night with Conan O'Brien, The Daily Show, etc.). However, mentioning the most frequent guests or guests that made a big impact in the talk show would be notable in the talk show's article.
 * With game shows, people are not usually going to be notable if they haven't won big in the game show's history (at least in my view of the current consensus). For example, I have raised Craig Westphal for deletion because he's just not notable at this point in time.
 * As for other TV series, if the minor characters or guest stars were integral to the series' storylines, I think that's a basis for inclusion in Wikipedia. But that may be subjective to the popularity or the coverage of the series, which may be systemic bias. That's something I don't want to live with. Tinlinkin 07:19, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.