Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of heads of Colonial Singapore by education


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Seems like the consensus is that this cross-categorization is not suited for Wikipedia. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:35, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

List of heads of Colonial Singapore by education

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I see no indication that a "by education" list of these administrators is anything but original synthesis. As far as I can tell, none of the cited sources discusses the heads' educations as a group. Huon (talk) 02:00, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Huon (talk) 02:00, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. Huon (talk) 02:00, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Singapore-related deletion discussions. Huon (talk) 02:00, 28 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete This is not an original synthesis – it seems to make no claims or present any novel theories about the topic. But there is a problem in that it doesn't conform to its billing.  The people are not listed or organised by education; they are presented chronologically.  And most of the early entries don't have any details about education.  So the page seems redundant to List of Governors of Singapore.  If the author wants a record of their work then the page might be userfied.  Andrew D. (talk) 08:03, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment Will adding related references to this article from every BLP helps? If yes, please let me know. I will add those related references and add see also section to each BLP. Flipchip73 (talk) 08:44, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * At the same time, please do review List of heads of Hong Kong by education. I got the ideas from that article and that is why this article was create. Flipchip73 (talk) 08:51, 28 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep I am adding the references to the articles. Flipchip73 (talk) 12:34, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I have added all the information I can get from the web. Please help to review and decide. Flipchip73 (talk) 15:19, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Flipchip73, the page was not nominated because of lack of sources. Rather, it was nominated because sources do not discuss the title of the page.  That is, it is a notbility issue, not a verifiability issue.  What is required to answer that is sources discussing the relevance of education to Singapore heads as a group.  Further, there is a redundancy issue – even if it was shown that education of heads is significant, you need to explain why it is necessary to have a seperate list for that purpose. SpinningSpark 15:55, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * As the article creator, I do agree with your point of view on notability and thank you. Why? You are the first editor to point out what was lacking on this article as none of the editors tell me anything. I do see List of heads of Hong Kong by education is being listed for AfD too. I hope that if possible, to delete both articles at the same time and close the case. Please do comment on that article too for deletion as it is quite inappropriate for me to do so as my new article cause it to be AfD. Thank you. Flipchip73 (talk) 01:56, 29 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete redundant. I think List of heads of Hong Kong by education should also be nominated if this is deleted.  Both fail WP:SALAT as too specific and duplicate the lists in their parent articles.  The category: Lists of people by educational affiliation is meant to be lists of alumni in specific institutions, not a cross-categorisation of governors and education.  I might change my mind if sources describing the significance of colonial governors' education is forthcoming, but at the moment, this totting up of governor alma maters is entirely WP:SYNTH. SpinningSpark 15:04, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete While this is not OR, it's too specific and unnecessary; university attended is not directly related to being a governor nor is this discussed as a group. You could theoretically make a sourced list of any sort of people (List of governors of California by education, List of Academy Award winners by education?) but this is too specialized and not an independently notable topic as a sort of cross-categorization. Reywas92Talk 19:15, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable convergence not covered as a group or set by multiple independent reliable sources, and overly specific to begin with see WP:LISTN, WP:LSC, WP:IINFO, and WP:SALAT. Tinkering Gnome (talk) 14:23, 30 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment Thank you all for the voting. Please to look at List of heads of Hong Kong by education as the idea of the colonial Singapore list is from the article mentioned. Thank you. Flipchip73 (talk) 02:54, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete indiscriminate list. -Zanhe (talk) 06:07, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak keep as one of a series. If we do keep this, it should be re-titled List of heads of Singapore by education and expanded to current date. If deleted, we need a consensus on whether we should be more consistent on such lists, or create an arbitrary cut-off. Bearian (talk) 17:09, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your support for keeping this article. As the creator, if this article is to be keep, I will take your advise to expand the list to present day and have it re-titled. It is quite easy for America or Philippines as the head of state and the head of the government is the President of the country while the head of state of Singapore is the President and head of the government is the Prime Minister. I can display the list of heads in different tables in the same article. Flipchip73 (talk) 03:41, 4 September 2019 (UTC)


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