Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of highest-grossing kaiju films (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Tone 09:22, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

List of highest-grossing kaiju films
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Not notable nor significant enough to merit its own article. Uses sources that can be found in each film's own individual articles. Article is too close to WP:FAN as it only focuses on a select few films, most of which haven't been identified as "kaiju" films by other sources or their own studios/filmmakers. Armegon (talk) 01:12, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
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 * Keep it did have 25 entries but was reduced due to not being referenced, it seems a valid split from the genre article which would be too long with this included. These films seem to fit the genre description of large monster attacking a city, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 01:47, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: Kaiju films are Japanese by default, hence the term "Kaiju Eiga." Something like Pacific Rim or Cloverfield wouldn't technically be considered a "kaiju eiga" because they are Hollywood productions. The following sources, here, here, and here emphasize that the genre itself is an "archetype in 20th Century Japanese storytelling." Additionally, the article is too small to merit displaying small box office numbers for films that have not broken records. If it was similar to articles like List of accolades received by Parasite or List of accolades received by Joker (2019 film), then there wouldn't be any need to challenge the article but its current form doesn't justify its existence. There's no source cited for the inflation section. Where are those figures even coming from? It's impossible to calculate the inflation for the Japanese films since there is no official sources to uncover the price of tickets at the time of the Japanese films' releases. Armegon (talk) 03:17, 14 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SYNTH and WP:OR. Data table requires collating a group of sources of selected films (of that genre) to make the list, and does not rely on a valid source confirming which are indeed the highest grossing ones. Ajf773 (talk) 08:26, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Math on the inflation adjustment chart is completely off, because the number of ticket sales per film are not known (outside of Japan) and the chart uses U.S ticket prices to convert international grosses which skews the numbers. Not even Box Office Tracking websites like The-Numbers and Boxofficemojo do inflation adjustment with International grosses. Only domestic ones. So the numbers are completely inaccurate, unsourced (original research) and misleading.Giantdevilfish (talk) 15:34, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, no reason for a stand alone. IW. (talk) 16:22, 14 March 2020 (UTC)


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