Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of highways numbered 19A


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Keep.  Soxred  93  22:42, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

List of highways numbered 19A

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A list consisting of two highways does not strike me as being notable. Ecoleetage (talk) 17:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - no need for this list. Perhaps the two articles could link to each other --T-rex 18:00, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - I know there are more highways with the 19A designation around. I can vaguely recall one in Florida I was on one time. Perhaps changing this to a disambiguation page would do the trick, and additional routes can be added whenever anyone wishes. Hellno2 (talk) 18:18, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - If this article is deleted, then we will have a ton of AfD work to do in Category:Lists_of_roads_sharing_the_same_title. --Millbrooky (talk) 18:47, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per Millbrooky « D. Trebbien ( talk ) 20:59 2008 June 16 (UTC)
 * Keep This in essence is a disam page, in a specialized format. DGG (talk) 21:16, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Hatnotes would have been the better approach to connect the articles. To Millbrooky's point - I would say that several of those lists should be deleted. Some of the lists have only one item in them: eg this one and this one.  See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS PKT (talk) 01:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I don't believe List of highways numbered 12E is any less notable than List of highways numbered 20. I may or may not support converting the whole lot (from the cat I listed above) back to disam pages instead of their current list forms, but that would require overturning an Aug 2006 decision first. --Millbrooky (talk) 02:21, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep as DAB page. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Dabify. -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 05:23, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I truly don't see the encyclopedic value of any "List of Highways numbered..." lists, however, given that there is a whole category devoted to them, and that this list NOW has more than 2 entries, I don't see a valid argument for deletion. I have not voted to keep, as I have made recent edits to the page, AND because, as I stated above, I don't see the encyclopedic value of any of these lists. DigitalC (talk) 07:06, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Further comment: Should Florida State Road A19A Also be included in this list? How about Nebraska spur 19A? DigitalC (talk) 07:18, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I nominated the article for the AfD because the original version consisted of two highways. I just got word that the number of highways was increased from two to six. However, I am still not convinced about the value of this article. Outside of the coincidence of having the same numeric designation, these roads have absolutely nothing in common. Ecoleetage (talk) 11:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Response to above comment: A disambiguation page is really the norm on Wikipedia in these situations. Disambiguation pages exist when two or more articles exist on topics that have identical or similar titles. In many cases, that could be a number. Hellno2 (talk) 13:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep - more highways need to be added to the list, hence the reason it says

''This disambiguation page lists articles about roads, streets, highways, or other routes which are associated with the same title. If an internal link referred you to this page, you may wish to change the link to point directly to the intended article.''

Ngs61 (talk) 15:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  16:28, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  16:28, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's a dab page. Bearcat (talk) 19:09, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep as a disambiguation page. The only issue is that redirects need to be created from titles like Route 19A and Highway 19A. --NE2 23:05, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep It is a dab page, but it can always merge with List of highways numbered 19. Smcafirst the Roadgeek (Road talk) at 22:34, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. This has now been converted to a valid dab page. Mind  matrix  23:43, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Additionally, move to Highway 19A, which is a more conventional title for a dab page. Mind  matrix  23:45, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The problem is that not all are normally called Highway 19A; some are Route 19A or other terms. --NE2 07:53, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You can deal with that issue by naming the article by one of these terms (whichever is more accepted by Wikipedia standards) and having the other term redirect to the page. Hellno2 (talk) 16:46, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That's right. If its a valid dab page we can't have it start with "list." -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 20:16, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: What makes it invalid as a list? Please see Category:Lists_of_roads_sharing_the_same_title DigitalC (talk) 01:48, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Then rename them. Bearcat (talk) 12:32, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge with List of highways numbered 19. For an example, see List of highways numbered 531 under Florida. --CG was here. 01:15, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment. While it seems that people are trying to use disambiguation as a defence of these lists, these are not disambiguation pages per the set index section of the disambiguation guideline, they are in fact, and as their names suggest, index list type articles. Therefore, their existence needs to be defended en masse at Afd under the principle that they do not contravene the policy that wikipedia is not a directory. MickMacNee (talk) 14:36, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.