Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of historic military defeats


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The result was Delete - Yomangani talk 12:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

List of historic military defeats

 * del Why not list of historic military victories? Pointless list and POVish, too. `'mikkanarxi 22:58, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Rename into List of decisive battles. Presumably the intention is to list 'the battles that lost the war'. There isn't really an article that does so and with proper historical citiations such as this it should avoid POV. Antonrojo 23:14, 17 October 2006 (UTC) Caknuck 03:28, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Not even all of these are decisive. Militarily, Pearl Harbor wasn't much of a serious setback (from the article: "only three ships were permanently lost to the U.S. Navy...much usable material was salvaged from them"). Caknuck 15:44, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete Grossly incomplete & subjective. And technically, they're all historic. Caknuck 03:28, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per Caknuck. This would include most of the battles in the Wikipedia, leaving out only the "undecided" ones. And don't rename without completely rewriting - again per Caknuck, the Alamo and Little Bighorn didn't lose any war either, the war continued and the victors of the battle lost; while Six Day War isn't even about a single battle, it's about, surprisingly enough, a war, hence the name. That's 4 of the 8 "battles" listed which weren't "the battle that lost the war", so renaming to that is not appropriate. AnonEMouse (squeak) 15:03, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Attempt to bypass Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_October_14. Pavel Vozenilek 16:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.