Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of honorary Native Americans


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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 05:49, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

List of honorary Native Americans

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Completely non-notable concept, arbitrary (who decides who is an honorary Native American, can members of one tribe be nominated for another tribe? BTW practically ever US president has been declared an "honorary member" of one tribe or another. Yuchitown (talk) 20:02, 20 October 2016 (UTC)Yuchitown
 * Delete – Looking at the revision history, this is yet another example of the failures of AFC in particular and the process of patrolling new pages in general. We have editors going through the motions with script editing or whatever else instead of actually employing human judgement, I presume in this case assuming that the mere existence of reliable sources equals evidence of notability.  The end result is that inferior content is dumped onto the encyclopedia with only a scattershot chance that knowledgeable editors will even know that it exists, which will only bring long-term harm to the project.  I see examples of that all over the encyclopedia and it's only gotten worse over time.  It appears that this list has been sitting in article space for over four years with little significant improvement in between.  Here in Alaska where I live, for a non-Native to be considered an adopted or honorary member of a particular subset of Natives (the term "tribe" is only sparingly used) is actually considered a very high honor in many cases.  Still, it's somewhat arbritary and carries no real official recognition or weight.  Consider the case of Bishop William Gordon, who was originally from the Mid-Atlantic region of the continental United States but is buried in Point Hope, Alaska.  That burial site says a lot more about what regard the Natives held for him than any particular title issued in life ever could. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions  21:21, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
 * In the Lower 48 Indians are proud to call themselves tribes, and they certainly have the right to honor anyone they like. I'm not seeing much evidence that the honorees then become "honorary Native Americans."Kitfoxxe (talk) 01:12, 21 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete This list is not now making a positive contribution. I know that's not in itself a reason to delete, but the concept seems so vague and non-notable. I also question if being made a member of a tribe makes that person a Native American.  Does the whole thing really have any meaning? Kitfoxxe (talk) 22:39, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 10:13, 22 October 2016 (UTC)


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