Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of hotels in Nigeria


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Ajf773 (talk) 05:19, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

List of hotels in Nigeria

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A spectular list of non notable businesses. Fails WP:NOTDIR and WP:NOTTRAVEL Ajf773 (talk) 06:45, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. Ajf773 (talk) 06:45, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 08:59, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 08:59, 29 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep: If an article on list of hotels needs to be deleted then the List of hotels in Lagos should be merged to this one then deleted. There are many notable hotels in Nigeria, many of which have articles on WP. Darreg (talk) 15:47, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * There are only six articles for hotels in Nigeria, four in Lagos (the fifth doesn't count as it leads to the hotel chain article). If they don't have articles they don't deserve to be listed. This is not a forum for free advertising for hotels. Ajf773 (talk) 20:04, 29 August 2017 (UTC)\
 * "If they don't have articles they don't deserve to be listed." I agree with this, and this is a completely consistent standard with other lists of this kind. postdlf (talk) 20:19, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * @Ajf773 I am trying to avoid replying to comments to my !votes on AFD, but there are some replies I just can't overlook despite trying to. You will be doing me a lot of good if you can read my statements carefully and not present me out of context to favour deletion or twist my rationale to show a lack of understanding of guideline on my path. Never did I insinuate that non notable hotels should be included in the article. I'm not sure of your definition of "many", but in this context I definitely consider anything up to five as many. And an hotel having article on WP before inclusion is never a mandatory prerequisite in a scanty underrepresented article such as this one. A reliable independent source that show significant coverage is enough for now, until the article gets saturated then further filter mechanism can be used on the list such as having an article on WP. I have been working with lists for a considerable time on WP and the guideline of a WP article existing before inclusion was definitely not created to prevent notable articles from being included to lists, rather it was created to prevent vandalism and unnecessary additions to saturated lists, not one such as this. Besides, if I was ignorant of that guideline I wouldn't have added, "many of which have articles on WP" to my entry.


 * If you think the article contains few notable and many non-notable hotels, then it is perfectly okay if you remove all the hotels lacking a sufficient inline RS. I'm fascinated by buildings and notable structures, so I will def work on this article only if it is kept. History have taught me not to improve articles when an AFD is ongoing, I can't have my work wasted in the bin. My initial statements remain 100% valid, off the top of my head, there is InterContinental Lagos (tallest hotel in West Africa and one of the tallest buildings in Africa), Oriental Hotel, Four Points, Transcorp Hilton, Tinapa Lakeside Hotel, Le Meridien Hotel 2, Ibis Hotel, Renaissance hotel are some of the notable hotels yet to have articles and it will be inline with policy if they are added to the list with ref, even without articles. "runs to my hideout" Darreg (talk) 21:19, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * There is a distinct difference between buildings and structures and hotels. One are geographic features and the other are businesses. There is clear notability requirements for both WP:GEOFEAT and WP:NCORP. The issue I have is the user of these List of hotels in x as a medium for travel guides or advertising which would fail the WP:NOT policy. We could have an article List of buildings and structures in Nigeria, as per the same lists that exists for other African countries, and appears to be more suitable for listing articles like these. Ajf773 (talk) 22:16, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree about the advertising issue, I planned on deleting 90% of the present hotels in the article after this AFD is closed. I would have done it now but I don't want to improve articles in an open AFD. Your suggestion on List of buildings and structures in Nigeria is great, something I will consider in the future. There are many great structures here that many people don't know about. Darreg (talk) 23:00, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Depending on where this article ends up (as a keep or no consensus) I proposed merging everything into that new article. Ajf773 (talk) 23:34, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with retaining or a merger. I just need a list article that will accommodate buildings such as this in Nigeria. Darreg (talk) 23:49, 2 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I agree with the previous commenter, that the List of hotels in Lagos should be expanded to a Nigeria-wide list, as we have very few articles on Nigerian hotels outside that city. As the nominator's argument (contra WP:BEFORE and WP:ATD) appears directed solely at the current state of this list and not on the potential of the list's topic, I don't see this AFD as having any bearing on that development happening. There are only two bluelinks in this current list, so either take that as a WP:TNT of this list before moving the Lagos list to this title, or a merge and redirect of the Lagos list content here, with pruning of all non-bluelink entries and expansion to the rest of Category:Hotels in Nigeria's contents. postdlf (talk) 16:07, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep As per Darreg ʍaɦʋɛօtʍ (talk) 16:43, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per Darreg. A nation-wide list is sensible.  Note, there have been many AFDs about lists of hotels.  Sometimes mergers make sense, but note there is a world-wide List of hotels which is certainly valid because hotels exist in the world, and country- and other-level lists are effectively split out from that.  Eliminating a national list by deleting it is never appropriate;  at worst merging/redirecting to the world-wide list makes sense. -- do  ncr  am  18:53, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep List of hotels in Lagos should be merged temporarily into this topic since majority of the listed hotels are Lagos-based. On the other hand, article creator should note that too many redlinks in a "List-of article" tends to make it fail WP:NLIST —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 21:49, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Withdrawing AFD. The changes Darreg has made to the article no longer reflects the reasons behind the nomination. Ajf773 (talk) 05:19, 5 September 2017 (UTC)


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