Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of independent circuit, non-affiliated or retired professional wrestlers


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The result was   delete. ⇌ Jake   Wartenberg  03:21, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

List of independent circuit, non-affiliated or retired professional wrestlers

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This list is cruft and completely unnecessary. In fact, it can never hope to be comprehensive, considering how broad the scope of the article is. It needs to go. Feed back  ☎ 08:31, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete Article fails WP:N, if important to note the retirement of wrestlers then add a category. Otherwise it's cruft.  DavidTTTaylor (talk) 16:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
 * If it's "cruft", then it shouldn't be a category either. postdlf (talk) 16:38, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The main problem with this list to me seems to be the inclusion of "retired", which not only makes it a collection of people grouped by multiple, unrelated characteristics (performing or once performed on the independent circuit OR no longer performing anywhere??), but transient. We list people by what they are doing/have done, not by their status at this time of no longer doing something. So if that issue is fixed, then the only remaining question for me is whether performing on the independent circuit is significant enough of a fact in a wrestler's career for us to index notable wrestlers by that fact (per WP:LISTPURP, WP:CLN), which I don't know the answer to. The nom nor the one delete !vote above do not address that question, nor even offer any argument I find substantive on any relevant point as to whether this list has merit (insisting, without elaboration, that something is "cruft" or "unnecessary" doesn't accomplish anything, and a list does not have to be comprehensive, particularly when it only indexes articles that are members of a larger group of which not every member is notable). postdlf (talk) 16:38, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:CRUFT violation for sure. A category would cover this a whole lot better. BerleT (talk) 07:29, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment I created this article (and it's been renamed several times since then) when the article split from List of professional wrestlers. When I was finished splitting it from every main professional wrestling promotion, the remainder was a list of "all other" professional wrestlers who didn't fit into one promotion, and thus this article was created. I guess it can go, and I thought about getting rid of it for a while, so I suppose it's time. Regards, — Moe   Epsilon  19:21, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete It looks like a random list. Cagematch has a list of all the wrestlers and it's really long. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 14:56, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
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