Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of individuals with obsessive compulsive Disorder (OCD)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. J04n(talk page) 13:30, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

List of individuals with obsessive compulsive Disorder (OCD)

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Discussion required on necessity of this list. Karl 334  Talk-  -Contribs  21:23, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete or improve An article on this subject may be doable, but it would have to be sourced very well and only use confirmed psychological diagnoses (and, perhaps, informed speculation on historical subjects) and not gossip media or other speculative sources. The current source in the article is not strong enough to cite this condition for BLPs... I will go ahead and remove the living entries momentarily.  Them  From  Space  03:01, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete and then consider making an article, which would be based on the usual criterion of people in WP with a confirmed reliable diagnosis--at least in retrospect, by qualified historical experts using modern criteria, and where it affected their career. The easiest incliusions will be modern entertainment figures who have openly self-identified, and where qualified 3rd party sources have confirmed.  The criteria for the presence of people on this list is their inclusion in the ref. given, which seems to be based primarily on commons-sense observation, which is not a good basis for a diagnosis as far as an encyclopedia is concerned. But the article doesn't even follow it.  For the very first entry, Einstein, the ref says  " It is also thought that he had OCD" For Charles Darwin, the reference says " It has been speculated that one of Darwin's conditions may have been Obsessive Compulsive Disorder."  It might be possible to justify them on such a list, but not on the basis of such statements.    DGG ( talk ) 06:35, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Obsessive–compulsive_disorder. This list does have potentional for expansion at a point in the future though. Note to closing admin that the nominator hasn't actually given any valid reason for deletion.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 08:42, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - misuse or unreferenced names on this list can result in people being labelled - and open Wikipedia to criticism for discrimination or libel Gbawden (talk) 12:00, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
 * That could be said of any list on WP. What policy-based rationale do you have for deletion?  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 12:43, 22 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete as a train wreck. Bearian (talk) 19:34, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete since there is a lot of potential for slander. I agree with User:Bearian's train wreck argument as well. Jrcla2 (talk) 20:27, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:14, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Behavioural science-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:14, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:15, 22 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Redirect I personally don't feel that this condition is rare or significant enough to have a standalone list of those affected by it. Yes, when it is severe enough it does generate interesting case studies. However, as it is now, I think it's on the borderline leading to gossip. I think transfering the information to Obsessive–compulsive_disorder as Lugnuts suggested is a good idea. &mdash; Σosthenes 12  Talk  21:28, 22 May 2013 (UTC)Sosthenes12
 * Strong Delete without a merge or redirect. Criteria for inclusion on the list are weak - unacceptably so for sensitive biographical information like this. Many of the individuals on the list are included based on a post-mortem hunch rather than a Reliable Source diagnosis. About half are cited to the website Disabled World; typical "evidence" offered by that site: "It has been speculated that one of Darwin's conditions may have been Obsessive Compulsive Disorder." Eight others are cited to an article about Howie Mandell that doesn't even mention the others. The very existence of this article just begs for people to be added based on rumor or gossip. I think we would do a real disservice to Wikipedia and to the individuals on the list if we do anything other than Delete. --MelanieN (talk) 22:00, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
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