Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Martin Guptill


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Martin Guptill. No consensus to merge the content here, although that can be explored on the relevant talk page of the main article if desired. The content to be potentially merged is still accessible behind the redirect. Daniel (talk) 00:11, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

List of international cricket centuries by Martin Guptill

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Fails WP:NLIST as it says, "a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources". Störm  (talk)  22:12, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  23:05, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  23:05, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  23:05, 8 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment - is there a minimum number of centuries required? I've noticed that most of the ones that qualify for these lists have 25 or more but there are some others that don't, such as List of international cricket centuries by Cheteshwar Pujara. Spiderone  23:06, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Many years ago at WT:CRIC someone said 25 (pulling a random number out of thin air), but it was not discussed further so no consensus can be derived from that. In reality, creation of such articles should be judged by WP:SPLIT. wjematherplease leave a message... 12:19, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Merging stats from a standalone article to a player's article would set a precedent that every international cricketer would require their own list of centuries. I'm opposed to merging. If someone wants an indepth list of stats, they can find it via the player's Cricinfo profile. Ajf773 (talk) 09:07, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep or Merge Have you never heard of WP:MULTIAFD or are you deliberately being disruptive? My keep reasons are on one of the other related AfDs that this should have been bundled with. Spike &#39;em (talk) 10:29, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The partially quoted WP:NLIST says :One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources and There is no present consensus for how to assess the notability of more complex and cross-categorization lists (such as "Lists of X of Y") or what other criteria may justify the notability of stand-alone lists. Spike &#39;em (talk) 15:07, 10 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge. Following earlier AFDs here and here, there is nothing to warrant a separate article, per WP:SPLIT. Per nom, these articles do not stand on their own. wjematherplease leave a message... 12:19, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep or Merge. My policy is DON'T delete, ALWAYS improve. Gihan Jayaweera 18:52, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * But we follow Wikipedia policies and guidlines. Störm   (talk)  13:36, 9 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge per consensus established at Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Damien Martyn. Fails to meet the long-standing benchmark of 25 centuries. StAnselm (talk) 17:58, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per other outcomes of 'List of international cricket centuries..' articles. WP:NOTSTATS. Ajf773 (talk) 08:16, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * WP:NOTSTATS does not forbid statistics, and also says that : Where statistics are so lengthy as to impede the readability of the article, the statistics can be split into a separate article and summarized in the main article. Spike &#39;em (talk) 14:57, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * No, but this would set a precedent that every other international cricketer would require their own list of centuries. Also all this information can be easily obtained by the Statsguru filter on ESPN Cricinfo. Why are other statistics not equally as important. Ajf773 (talk) 09:07, 11 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment - it's strange how something as arbitrary as a chosen non-zero number - 25 - would exclude articles like this (21), and allow articles like this (26) for Ian Bell - which is a featured list. In the days when we had to stick to 32K length, articles like this would have been necessary. Not a criticism, just an observation. On the other hand, Wikipedia is not paper. It's not as if we're running out of paper. I forget how to insert reference lists within Wikipedia articles, rather than by themselves. Bobo. 10:25, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge to main article per earlier AFDs  // Timothy :: t | c | a  02:10, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Which AfD's? These: Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Mushfiqur Rahim or Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Upul Tharanga or Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Shakib Al Hasan. Those three were all deleted, two other similar articles were merged after AfD's, it doesn't mean we have a mandate to merge. Wikipedia is not a collection of indiscriminate information and no one has explained why a list of international centuries (and scorecards to the matches they were scored in) isn't just that. Merging sets a precedent that every other cricketer article should equally have their own similar lists on the BLP page. If there is to be an arbitrary number to be considered valid for a list (such as 21) then a redirect is the better course of action than a merge. Ajf773 (talk) 09:19, 14 January 2021 (UTC)


 *  Delete Merge into main article. Nigej (talk) 16:06, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Why? The last three AfD's resulted in redirect, not merge. See Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Michael Atherton, Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Tom Latham, Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Dinesh Chandimal. Ajf773 (talk) 19:37, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete I agree with the other delete votes, I have nothing else to add. Apples&#38;Manzanas (talk) 15:11, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vaticidalprophet (talk) 22:48, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:54, 18 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Redirect to the article about the player, with a selective merge if appropriate. That seems the most sensible solution in line with other AfD results. Blue Square Thing (talk) 11:26, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - note to closing admin - there was a RfC on this and the consensus on WP:CRIC was to remove these statistics from bios per WP:NOTSTATS. Störm   (talk)  07:02, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - this is not true. The closing administrator made it clear it did not have universal application. Spurious claims like this should not be relied on for deletion. Deus et lex (talk) 12:33, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to the article about the player to avoid unnecessary duplicated here. Jenyire2 (talk) 07:03, 25 January 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.