Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international football stadiums


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The result was  d elete. - Mailer Diablo 03:21, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

List of international football stadiums

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Yet another unmaintainable list. There are around 230 countries in the FIFA and each of them has at least one international venue and most have more than that - I can think of at least six in the last couple of years in England alone while even the US has I think nine. The list as it stands (and this has been up for six months, remember) is woefully short & serves no useful purpose, and if kept will grow woefully long and still serve no useful purpose, since the information's mirrored on each FA's article. —  irides centi   (talk to me!)  20:15, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect to national stadium--basically the same concept.Blueboy96 20:30, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I disagree - for example, Wembley is England's national football stadium, but Old Trafford, Stadium of Light, St Mary's etc are all recent English international football stadia —  irides centi   (talk to me!)  20:34, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Stadiums used for International matches are not the same as National stadiums. Many countries (Germany and Italy to give prominent examples) play their home games at numerous, sometimes rather small venues. National stadium also means "most important/prestigious stadium". Malc82 21:17, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * In that case, I say delete ... if it can't be redirected, this has the potential to be the mother of all cruft. Forgive this American for being unfamiliar with the diff between a "national stadium" and an "international football stadium" ...Blueboy96 00:02, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete This list is bound to end up either massively lacking or much too long. Malc82 21:17, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as unmaintainable. The idea is fine, but the scope needs to be narrowed considerably.  It is also a horribly named article, as the definition of "international" changes depending on what country you are from. Resolute 22:19, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Question Has anybody looked at List of stadiums or Category:Lists of stadiums? I am not sure the problem with this page is limited to this page.  For example, this page is really a duplicate of List of football (soccer) stadiums by country.  Thus I suggest a discussion to cover this subject more effectively than a single AFD.  This is especially so given the nomination reasons, which is not that this page is a duplicate, or has a poorly defined purpose, but rather that it's unmaintainable.  If it is, what about those other pages? FrozenPurpleCube 22:57, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Such a discussion might be necessary, but this AfD can be done independently. The List of football (soccer) stadiums by country for example might make a good list if sorted by capacity and reduced to 10 or 20 by country, while this one will never. Malc82 23:10, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I think while List of football (soccer) stadiums by country is unmaintainable as well and should probably be deleted in favour of Category:Football (soccer) stadiums (or stadia - that "stadiums" makes me cringe even more than the "soccer"), it faces different issues than this list does as at least it's pretty obvious what is & isn't a football stadium. This list has the problem of what to include, as well — Villa Park has hosted 16 internationals, the most recent just 2 years ago - should it be on the list seeing as it won't host another until 2012? —  irides centi   (talk to me!)  23:11, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm not concerned about closing this discussion, it's one article of minor nature, but I do think addressing the issue overall is worthwhile. If somebody wants to start doing that, it'd be a good idea. FrozenPurpleCube 23:34, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It's 2am in Europe, which is where most of the editors most interested in football are likely to be; I'd suggest leaving it open at least until they've had a chance to have a look at it —  irides centi   (talk to me!)  23:49, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Not a problem, this discussion will go on for five days as usual as far I'm concerned, if not, it's only because it'd be closed to keep till a decision was made on the larger problem. Which I think may need to be examined.  FrozenPurpleCube 23:53, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment We already have such a category: Category:Football (soccer) venues by country. I guess all venues in this cat are stadiums.--Victor D PARLE 23:56, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, that category exists, but what about the other issue I brought up? This isn't just one list in a vacuum, but several.   FrozenPurpleCube 00:11, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete, this is one of the issues that might be served only by categories. Do you have any idea of how many football stadia are in the world?!? --Angelo 23:19, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete A cetegory is enough.--Victor D PARLE 23:56, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Ref (chew) (do) 09:17, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


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