Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international goals scored by Harry Kane (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Complex / Rational 13:44, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

List of international goals scored by Harry Kane
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List of international goals scored by Harry Kane

There has already been a discussion of whether we need this article as a stand-alone article, and the consensus was that we do not. See Articles for deletion/List of international goals scored by Harry Kane. The applicable policies include Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. There is slow-motion edit-warring to create a list article and to blank and redirect the list to Harry Kane. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:09, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Football and England. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:09, 28 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Harry Kane as nominator, and lock the redirect. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:11, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep as the decision to delete this article previously (in 2021) was because he was not his nation's all time top scorer. There is a consensus in the WPF community to make articles for players who have reached this milestones and Kane has now met and exceeded such criteria. Rupert1904 (talk) 07:57, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:12, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep since there are now far more sources specifically on the subject of Kane's international goals.   (The Daily Mail is not deprecated for sport), even a parody article, - and that was with a very quick search. Black Kite (talk) 09:14, 28 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep Kane is now the top scorer for the English national team, I was trying to follow some procedure, but that all appears to have gone out the window! I now realise the history of the pages is not much difference for histmerge, move which is what I intended. However considering he is now top scorer and that is the general bar for these articles this second AfD seems completely unneeded. Regards. Govvy (talk) 09:25, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment to User:Govvy - No, this second AFD is not unneeded. What was unneeded, and was harmful to the development of the encyclopedia, was the edit-warring.  AFD is a consensus process, which edit-warring is not.  Robert McClenon (talk) 15:16, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Skynxnex (talk) 16:43, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge/Redirect. The information is fine in the original article.  Having a separate stand-alone article to hold a few tables seems like a less efficient way to handle this information.  It's perfectly fine to keep it in the main article.  That we can have a stand-alone article doesn't mean we must, and I'm inclined to see the better way to organize this information is to keep it all in the main article, not arbitrarily split it off on its own.  -- Jayron 32 17:25, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per sources above from Black Kite which show notability. GiantSnowman 19:07, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - Per above. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 19:57, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per Rupert1904 KingSkyLord (talk &#124; contribs) 04:04, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep For the first AfD he was far from being the nation's top scorer, but now he is, so situation has changed. There is now a lot of interest in his international goals, and plenty of articles now that give partial list of goals, often in the form of his best or most important international goals. His international goals as a group is widely discussed (e.g. comparison with other top scorers, how many are penalties, the opposition he scored against, etc.), therefore the article is notable. Hzh (talk) 14:51, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep there are multiple new sources with significant coverage because he has now become England's top scorer. As such, it now passes WP:LISTN, whereas it didn't at the time of the first AFD, when there was significantly less coverage of his goals. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:59, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep The article has significant coverage, its notable Kane is England's all time top scorer and agreeing with Joseph it now passes WP:LISTN, so keep. Pinzunski (talk) 18:22, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - lots of coverage already identified regarding his England goalscoring exploits, such as this BBC article Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:20, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment - Can we agree there is a consensus now to keep this article? Rupert1904 (talk) 09:01, 4 April 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.