Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international goals scored by João Vieira Pinto


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. There is clearly some disagreement here, citing similar lists for other footballers and even an FL. However, the rough consensus is that we do not keep lists of a footballer's international goals by default, and the current level of coverage around João Vieira Pinto's goals have not passed the threshold for standalone list inclusion. Deryck C. 22:36, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

List of international goals scored by João Vieira Pinto

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Not a notable article at all. &mdash; Swastik Chakraborty (User talk)  19:00, 12 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete as useless. How do we need a list of goals? Legacypac (talk) 19:12, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Qed237&#160;(talk) 21:17, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Portugal-related deletion discussions.  Human 3015   Let It Go    21:21, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
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 * Keep A list of notable achievements by a notable individual, meeting WP:SAL. To say it's useless and not needed is silly, as another 40+ lists like this exist and at least one of them is a Featured List.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 07:47, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete: Goals scored in an international match should not have their own article. Baseless article. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 13:54, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - these kind of lists can be notable, but there is no indication why thus particular player deserves such an article. GiantSnowman 18:11, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep: As per Lugnuts. These are encyclopedic lists. Pinto is notable enough. -- Human 3015   Let It Go   18:35, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Lugnuts argument is fundamentally flawed by the assumption that scoring at international level is an inherently notable achievement. There is no consensus that that is the case. Like GS says, these lists can be notable, but a list for a person who is only the eighth highest goalscorer for his country where there appears to have been no discussion of his international goalscoring prowess outside of stat sites does not indicate notability to me. Fenix down (talk) 15:58, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep or Merge: Per other's arguments and past discussions on the WikiProject Football talk page. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 21:00, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Can't see how this is anything other than fancruft. This would be akin to an article on List of playoff touchdowns by Peyton Manning, which would be just as inappropriate.  Onel 5969  TT me 13:41, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - per rationales of GiantSnowman and Fenix Down. In the absence of significant coverage of the scoring history of the subject player, the notability requirements are not satisfied and the gnashing of teeth about "how important" is the list miss the point completely.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 11:07, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - There is no evidence that this footballer has a list of goals that is notable enough for it's own article. Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 12:11, 20 January 2016 (UTC)


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