Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international goals scored by Neymar


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Missvain (talk) 22:21, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

List of international goals scored by Neymar

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Per this, this, this, this, and this, we don't keep these types of articles unless they are or were the top goalscorer for their country.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 21:42, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:51, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge/redirect back to parent article per recent AFD consensus (see e.g. this and this. GiantSnowman 22:30, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep I am more inclined to keep this out of the main article, as that is already fairly big. I feel the lead needs expanding on, note some more specifics, along the lines like on Ibrahimović list. I don't see much else wrong, I feel this is valid use of WP:CONTENTFORK. Govvy (talk) 10:24, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge back to parent article per above comments. I believe the consensus is for a merge or redirect for all similar articles.  // Timothy ::  talk  20:17, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete outright, do not merge. The parent article already contains a brief summary of this information, and that is (more than) enough. This list is WP:INDISCRIMINATE and should never have been created in the first place; the list of goals belongs not in an encyclopaedia, but on a fansite or similar. This applies to all these lists, including featured ones such as List of international goals scored by Abby Wambach and List of international goals scored by Cristiano Ronaldo. We also should not have List of 100 meter dashes by Usain Bolt or List of pole vaults by Sergey Bubka. Editors need to learn to summarize this information instead of exhaustively enumerating each example. To put it another way, we should strive to write Climate of London, not List of rainy days in London. TompaDompa (talk) 01:42, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * An international goal is not even remotely comparable to a 100 meter dash. Scoring an international goal is a pretty big deal, and is relatively uncommon (given the nature of international football). A 100 meter dash is a fixed event, which would be comparable to maybe listing the international games played by a footballer, rather than his goals. Anyway, my comment isn't a vote on this specific article's deletion (or not). Nehme1499 (talk) 13:33, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comments I am concerned that the list is going to be merged into Neymars article. It's already on the large size, clearly the delete is not going to happen, and the two merge comments above, well I don't think they have analysed the content and are just based on suggestion. Govvy (talk) 12:19, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Incubate in draftspace until he reaches the amounts of goals required, which is becoming the all-time top goalscorer for Brazil. He is not very far from this achievement (only 13 goals from Pele, and there are around 15 matches for Brazil in 2021.) Someone can just keep updating this article and keep editing this draft for the future if they want. Of course, the article can just be re-written at that moment, but here is my suggestion. Paul Vaurie (talk) 14:47, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - this was moved out because the content is too large for the main Neymar article. It doesn't make sense to merge it back. Spiderone  15:31, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - Keep this article. I'm against the consideration of deletion of the article because it does not make sense. He's the second top scorer of Brazil national team and has a long career ahead of him. If this article is to be deleted, the same will be applicable to article like 'List of international goals scored by Diego Maradona'. So, I have nothing against this article. Ken Tony (talk) 18:01, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: Player has more than 60 goals. Also agree with the fact that the content is too large for the main Neymar article. Shahoodu (talk) 18:10, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge.--Ortizesp (talk) 18:52, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 01:02, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: Satisfies WP:NLIST, is appropriate content for Wikipedia, and per the above comments, is too large to merge into the player's primary article. Macosal (talk) 04:52, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Macosal.  The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!&#33;!&#33;) 15:09, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. See here. -- Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 16:50, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - well referenced, meets GNG, and Neymar is already too large! Nfitz (talk) 18:59, 28 December 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.