Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international goals scored by Ronaldo


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The result was merge to Ronaldo (Brazilian footballer).  MBisanz  talk 03:41, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

List of international goals scored by Ronaldo

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Per this, this, this, this, and this, we don't keep these types of articles unless they are or were the top goalscorer for their country.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 21:43, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Lots of discussion here for merge and then we had a few deletes thrown in at the end. Some more participation to help garner consensus would be great, thanks!
 * Merge/redirect back to parent article per recent AFD consensus (see e.g. this and this. GiantSnowman 22:30, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep When one looks at the first link in the nomination, we see that the result was Keep so that's a bogus argument. And it seems easy to find actual evidence that the topic passes WP:LISTN. Andrew🐉(talk) 23:47, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The list of goals you cite belongs to Cristiano Ronaldo, not Ronaldo. — Jkudlick &#x2693; t &#x2693; c &#x2693; s 00:58, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect to Ronaldo per precedent cited by . — Jkudlick &#x2693; t &#x2693; c &#x2693; s 00:58, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * - for complete clarity, presumably you mean merge/redirect to Ronaldo (Brazilian footballer).....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:56, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * You are correct. Thank you for the catch. — Jkudlick &#x2693; t &#x2693; c &#x2693; s 09:32, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Due in part to the size of the Ronaldo (Brazilian footballer) article, I am more inclined to keep. Govvy (talk) 10:28, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - even people who are not fans of Ronaldo have heard of him. The main article might be too big. I'd delete all of the other articles nominated, but keep this extraordinary one. Bearian (talk) 17:46, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * - out of idle curiosity, why do you think this particular list is "extraordinary"? Ronaldo is not especially close to having achieved the record number of goals scored for Brazil, let alone among all countries -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:35, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect as per others who have said the same -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:37, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge if that is the consensus. Bearian (talk) 17:29, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge back to parent article per above comments. Same for all similar articles.  // Timothy ::  talk  20:13, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete outright, do not merge. The parent article already contains a brief summary of this information, and that is (more than) enough. This list is WP:INDISCRIMINATE and should never have been created in the first place; the list of goals belongs not in an encyclopaedia, but on a fansite or similar. This applies to all these lists, including featured ones such as List of international goals scored by Abby Wambach and List of international goals scored by Cristiano Ronaldo. We also should not have List of 100 meter dashes by Usain Bolt or List of pole vaults by Sergey Bubka. Editors need to learn to summarize this information instead of exhaustively enumerating each example. To put it another way, we should strive to write Climate of London, not List of rainy days in London. TompaDompa (talk) 01:42, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge Doesn't need an article of its own, but it shouldn't be deleted outright. REDMAN 2019  ( talk ) 12:04, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per consensus at WT:FOOTY. REDMAN 2019  ( talk ) 17:39, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, not inherently notable.--Ortizesp (talk) 18:48, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 01:01, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - references could be improved. I'd suggest merging to Ronaldo (Brazilian footballer), but that's already very large, so this is a reasonable split. Nfitz (talk) 18:57, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge to main article. Fails WP:NLIST. Störm   (talk)  16:56, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge any pertinent information to Ronaldo per precedent cited by . Onel 5969  TT me 01:10, 30 December 2020 (UTC)


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