Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international goals scored by Sergio Ramos


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedy deleted - G7. (by an admin) (non-admin closure) RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 23:01, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

List of international goals scored by Sergio Ramos

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Fails WP:NOTSTATS and WP:NOTDIARY - this is simply not encyclopedic content, and is in fact directly referred to in the later: "Not every match played or goal scored is significant enough..." RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 15:31, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Additional note: there's no real difference, I think, as far as WP policy is concerned, between this and the recently deleted List of international cricket five-wicket hauls by Vernon Philander... This kind of stats-trivia page is, well, trivial and unencyclopedic. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 15:33, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete - not too long ago there was (if I recall correctly) a discussion at WT:FOOTBALL about these kind of articles, and I believe the outcome was rough consensus that these type of articles can be notable if a player has hit a significant milestone of goals (e.g. 50) and/or they are the country's record holder and/or GNG is met. None of these 'passes' apply here as far as I can see. GiantSnowman 16:19, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete for the reasons GS said. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:25, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as above, but I just want to check: are we saying this list should not be merged back to the Sergio Ramos main article? – PeeJay 16:28, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The table already exists at Sergio Ramos, so I don't see there's anything to merge. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:56, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * But should it be there at all? Is there any need to list a player's international goals in their article if they haven't met certain criteria? – PeeJay 17:55, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I'd put into question the whole concept of listing a player's international goals, no matter what the criteria for listing them would be; because of the explicit wording of WP:NOTDIARY; but that's a discussion better had at a more centralised place than a single AfD. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:51, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, I think for notable record holders, such as any nation's record goalscorer or those who meet a certain threshold, the lists are probably fine, but what gets me is when I see a table for a random centre-back who played a couple of internationals listing their one and only goal. – PeeJay 07:03, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Pointless duplicate of the table already on the article. This clearly doesn't meet the criteria set out. REDMAN 2019  ( talk ) 17:46, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as decided by editors here. ChapzK (talk) 18:38, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, per above comments duplicate content etc. Govvy (talk) 00:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as Ramos is not a topscorer for his country, nor has he scored a significant amount of goals to make splitting relevant per size. Regarding the general question, you can see the recent discussion at WT:FOOTY at this link. --SuperJew (talk) 07:56, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * That seems a lot of WP:LOCALCONSENSUS based on arbitrary criteria. Thanks for the link, though, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 13:51, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. KingSkyLord (talk &#124; contribs) 22:35, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Dr Salvus (talk) 22:37, 16 February 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.