Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of interpolated songs


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Liz Read! Talk! 04:21, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

List of interpolated songs

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WP:OR all of the sources fail WP:RS, also no mention of term. We have Interpolation (classical music), they are not related. Acousmana 15:58, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
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 * <small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs and Lists.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 16:32, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment See also Articles for deletion/Interpolation (popular music). –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 17:08, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment The Weird Al song mentioned is from a different song and band than the one listed. So inaccurate information.  Also most of his songs are parodies of other songs, so that'd fill up its own list.  Is this list suppose to be full parody songs, or those that just borrow a brief bit from the original?  Do reliable sources cover this anywhere?   D r e a m Focus  19:35, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Are you referring to "Trapped in the Drive-Thru"? It does actually interpolate Led Zeppelin's "Black Dog" so that is correct. It is a parody of R. Kelly's "Trapped in the Closet". As stated in lede, parodies, cover versions and direct samples must not be listed as those are not interpolations. Hiddenstranger (talk) 01:21, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, although "Trapped In the Drive-Thru" is a parody of "Trapped in the Closet", Weird Al's version also interpolates "Black Dog" at around 6:25. TomasNotThomas (talk) 16:25, 20 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep - There are some sources, although in the lede, it says "References can be found in the articles of either the interpolated song or the interpolating song, or both." So really the sources in the actual song articles should also be included in the List of interpolated songs page for each entry listed. See also the now improved article Interpolation (popular music). Hiddenstranger (talk) 01:21, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Whosampled is not WP:RS, and a large number of the entries have no sources whatsoever so fail WP:LSC - blatant WP:OR. <b style="color:#552586">Ac</b><b style="color:#804fb3">ou</b><b style="color:#9969c7">s</b><b style="color:#b589d6">m</b><b style="color:#9969c7">a</b><b style="color:#804fb3">n</b><b style="color:#6a359c">a</b> 11:37, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 21:47, 10 August 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: We need some editors who are knowledgeable about music to chime in here. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 23:29, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - See my vote at Articles for deletion/Interpolation (popular music). I think the problem here is the lack of a distinct definition of the term "interpolated", which is an issue in the pop music media sources used. That in turn makes this list article look like original research with an indiscriminate focus, because the music media can't decide if the traditional technique of interpolation corresponds with rap songs that simply use really long samples. That disconnect is reflected in this list article. --- <b style="color:#66CDAA"> DOOMSDAYER 520</b> (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 14:25, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * When I have time I'll start adding reliable sources to prove the entries listed, but remove ones where sources are lacking. "Sampling" is not the term to be used here, as all the songs listed contain interpolations, not direct samples (although both direct samples and interpolations can appear together in one song) – it doesn't matter if songs contain interpolations even for a few seconds or throughout a whole song, they're all interpolations anyhow. Though related, there is a distinct difference between sampling and interpolation. Hiddenstranger (talk) 10:36, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
 * without clear RS sourcing, everything you have just stated is WP:OR, anything unqualified needs to be excised, and if there is nothing left after that, there is nothing to keep. <b style="color:#552586">Ac</b><b style="color:#804fb3">ou</b><b style="color:#9969c7">s</b><b style="color:#b589d6">m</b><b style="color:#9969c7">a</b><b style="color:#804fb3">n</b><b style="color:#6a359c">a</b> 18:40, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Giving it one more round to accommodate the improvements done in the article. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ASTIG️🙃  (ICE-T • ICE CUBE) 05:00, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - Currently adding sources to each entry. Hiddenstranger (talk) 02:20, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
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 * Comment - I already voted above. Over at the related Articles for deletion/Interpolation (popular music) we ended up with a "no consensus", which will probably be the case here too. Kudos to the editor who has expanded this list article, but I am still very skeptical on whether a working definition of "interpolation" has been narrowed down, not just here but in the various magazine articles that are being used as sources. All of these interrelated Wikipedia pages need to figure that out or admit that there is no precise definition of the term. --- <b style="color:#66CDAA"> DOOMSDAYER 520</b> (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 14:00, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, at lest untill comunity consensus decides on an complete definition of the term "interpolation". Handmeanotherbagofthemchips (talk) 15:59, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep, especially if and when more sources are found. Brad (talk) 02:50, 27 August 2022 (UTC)


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