Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of jazz standards (according to composer)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep, no consensus to delete. JodyBRoll, Tide, Roll

List of jazz standards (according to composer)

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Obvious original research. No sources are given and the list appears to be an arbitrary list of a few well known jazz tunes. Also what exactly is that title supposed to be? According to what composer? S.dedalus 06:04, 13 October 2007 (UTC) 
 * Delete as per nomination. --S.dedalus 06:04, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: It's worth noting that AfD discussion of List of musical works in unusual time signatures pretty much establishes the a precedent that a list being unfinished (or unfinishable) and possibly subjective isn't a sufficient reason for deletion. A list like this can be acknowledged as perpetually incomplete and somewhat subjective and still be a worthwhile resource.  That all said (again), I'm remaining neutral on this vote.  09:39, 13 October 2007 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Torc2 (talk • contribs)
 * Question. Did that AfD establish a precedent, or just make a mistake? -- Mikeblas 10:31, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete This information belongs on the respective artists pages and few others. this should not be here Carter | Talk to me 10:19, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment There's a large difference between a factual list, which time signatures clearly fall in, and an opinionated one. If you're going to make the later, you need some basis of WHY they are on the list -- look at List of important operas, and the HUGE amount of sourcing for why they are all there. Look at the talk page(/archives) too, as there's a lot of discussion about how to get such, etc. Most of these lists being put for deletion probably could have sources to back things up, and the case of THIS page I'd say it's worthwhile to keep, as an offshoot from the main Jazz standard page. But it really REALLY needs some care put into it because, like the others, it seems so small and worthless at the moment. (BTW: This logic can be made to most of these 'list of' [though not the atonal one, that's just silly], things being nominated, but they would not only need tons of sourcing, but a rename to including some word like 'important'). ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 11:08, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 16:53, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Keep Needs sources but the subject is notable. There are whole books written on defining the standard compositions that make up the jazz repertoire (I have placed a small list on the article's talk page). dissolve talk  17:21, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep but rename to List of jazz standards. "According to composer" just means the songs are listed under the composer's name instead of chronologically, alphabetically, etc...  Also I would move the page up to the Category:Lists of pieces and delete the subcategory of that Category:Lists of pieces by style so as to delete an unnecessary category.  Ideally I'd like to move everything up to Category:Lists of musical works but let's go only one step at a time.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dafoeberezin3494 (talk • contribs) 20:46, 22 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.