Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of kosher restaurants (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. Eagerly awaiting List of kosher Chinese restaurants. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:48, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

List of kosher restaurants
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The previous discussion about the deletion of this article focused on the fact that there are innumerable kosher restaurants in the world and this list contains only a small selection of not particularly notable restaurants (and some of them are closed). All of that is true, but I would like to add another point to consider here. Many of the keep votes in the previous AfD discussion equated kosher cuisine with other types of ethnic cuisine. This is not an accurate comparison. Not all restaurants can categorically be called "kosher" or "not kosher". Different rabbinic authorities have different opinions about what's allowed and what's not. In fact, this particular list even includes Second Avenue Deli, whose kosher status is the subject of significant debate among kosher-observant Jews (and not for factual reasons but for reasons related to the requirements of kosher designation in the first place). Since it's really not possible to objectively categorize a restaurant as kosher or otherwise, this list can never be truly verified for accuracy. --דניאל - Dantheman531 21:23, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep Most classifications have some corner cases and disputes – see list of rivers by length, for a good example.  Per WP:IMPERFECT, this is not a reason to delete them all as we wouldn't get anything done otherwise.  The topic passes WP:LISTN and here's some fresh evidence: London; NYC. Andrew D. (talk) 15:16, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep For two reasons. 1. These restaurants are notable, as can be seen from the fact that they have an article. 2. I strongly reject the notion that it can not be verified if these restaurants are kosher. That is not something Wikipedia needs to decide. If they have a kosher certificate, or are commonly called kosher, then for Wikipedia purposes that is enough. Debresser (talk) 17:23, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep with respect due to the nominator, as I personally disapprove of this kind of list—so often a magnate for fancruft and promotionalism. But, unfortunately, in this case reliable sources describe the restaurants as Kosher, so, having taken responsibility, we can noe describe them so also. As for the general problem with lists such as these, well—notwithstanding WP:OSE—we'd probably have to do something about List of Chinese restaurants as well... :) ——  SerialNumber  54129  19:36, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment reading List of Chinese restaurants as well as this article makes me think there may be something to "Wikipedia is not Yelp" here. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 04:35, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:NOTDUP relative to Category:Kosher restaurants. The list article also functions as a valuable navigational aid, per WP:LISTPURP. It's a list of notable kosher restaurants per Wikipedia's standards, not a list of all kosher restaurants. North America1000 01:13, 8 March 2019 (UTC)


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