Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of largest cities by area (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep.  So Why  06:38, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

List of largest cities by area
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Merge or redirect to List of largest cities Sulaimandaud (talk) 23:03, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 02:01, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 02:01, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment This could be a valid article, if it listed more than 3 places. I'd oppose a merge if it was substantially longer, because list of largest cities is already lengthy, but I hope someone can consider expanding this. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:22, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Whatever the outcome, I don't think it should be merged or redirected to List of largest cities, as a list by area and a list by population are very different. I think the topic is valid, given the existence of List of the 100 largest cities and towns in Canada by area and List of United States cities by area and the like, but it may get confusing to have a list for the whole world given the different definitions of municipality types. That being said, this article is sparse and unhelpful to the extent that, if no one wants to improve it right now, a delete via WP:TNT could apply with no prejudice against anyone recreating a more comprehensive, referenced version of the topic in the future.  " Pepper "  @ 00:22, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Largest by area is different than by population.  Encyclopedias should carry stuff like this, the topic is very accessible.  U.S. and Canada versions prove the topic is accepted by Wikipedia, even.  I completely object to idea of using "TNT", for all the reasons expressed in essay wp:TNTTNT including that a) that admits the topic is notable so why the hell delete it, and b) deletion of a notable topic only to have it recreated later violates our copyright/GPL agreement with editors that their contributions will be recorded. -- do  ncr  am  19:10, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:45, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - Per – XboxGamer 22408 talk 02:19, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete a well-created article on this topic would inevitably run into problems with city-county consolidation. This list is necessarily arbitrary. Power~enwiki (talk) 02:37, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Keep Here are some sources about the subject:  The book notes: * On October 1, 1968, Jacksonville, Fla., city proper became coextensive with Duval County (827 sq. mi.).   The book notes: "Edmonton is the capital and largest city in the province of Alberta with a metropolitan population of 1,159,869 over 684.37km2, making it one of the largest cities, by area, in North America."   The book notes: "In 1968, the population jumped to more than 500,000 when it was consolidated with Duval County, and Jacksonville became one of the largest cities by area in the U.S." <li> The book notes: "For instance, it is estimated that over 700 square kilometres of land—roughly equivalent to the size of Calgary, one of North America's largest cities by area— has been directly disrupted by tar sands mining since the start of the industry in the late 1960s."</li> <li> The article notes: "Edmonton sprawls over a 259-square-mile area, one of the largest cities by area in North America."</li> <li> The book notes: "He recognized the difficulties in using maps of questionable accuracy and acknowledged the problem of defining the limit of a city. Nonetheless, he was able to reduce his results to several classes of cities, by area: very large cities in excess of 2,000 arpents, such as Peking or Rome, or between 1,000 and 2,000 arpents (5–15 km2), such as Lyon or Florence; large cities, 300–1,000 arpents (1.5–5 km2), such as Brussels, Strasbourg, and The Hague; medium cities, 70–300 arpents (0.35 km 2–1.35 km2), such as Liège, Cadix, and Amiens."</li> </ol>Cunard (talk) 05:28, 12 June 2017 (UTC)</li></ul>
 * While I respect the keep arguement, I don't think these sources would be helpful. It makes a lot more sense to cite the census than a book about environmental justice that has a sentence about Calgary being one of the largest cities in North America.  " Pepper "  @ 14:12, 17 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep but obviously needs to be expanded. I'm actually surprised Wikipedia doesn't have a listing by area either by itself or as part of the largest cities list. This is a totally valid topic and can include both legal boundaries and defined urban conglomeration. It just needs work. If the consensus is basically "delete and start over" then it should be listed at WP:REQ. 136.159.160.5 (talk) 18:08, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment This should have been closed "Speedy Keep" on the basis that there is no deletion rationale offered in the deletion nomination, at all. (Nor has there been any substantial rationale provided since, IMHO.  It's an obviously valid topic.  I !voted "Keep" above. )   Please take note, User:Sulaimandaud, and don't make any future nominations without providing specific reasons valid in deletion arguments (see guidance starting at wp:Deletion).  This is ready to be closed (Keep). -- do  ncr  am  01:46, 20 June 2017 (UTC)


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