Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of last games released for video game consoles


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was no consensus. --Mr. Lefty (talk) 23:09, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

List of last games released for video game consoles
Listcruft. There's no significance attributed to the last game for a console. If anything, I think it might just be indicative of what company was slowest to get their product to market, and nothing more. eaolson 03:32, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Interesting article, fairly easily verifiable. --- RockMFR 03:49, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, agreed that its interesting, but needs to be sourced and expanded -- Coasttocoast 04:30, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:NOT a list of trivia. As the nom says, there is no encyclopaedic significance associated with being the last game for a console. GassyGuy 06:51, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment If we can have a launch title article, which lists all the first games for consoles, then why can't we devote a page to the last games of each console? There are so many other lists filled with semi-obscure information on the site that I can't see how this one isn't valid too. Phediuk 20:44, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Quite a few of those should be deleted. Plus, your logic could be used to justify any article. "We have a game on the first and last games for consoles, so why can't we devote a page to the ninth game of each console?" GassyGuy 23:30, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment. The reason we shouldn't have this article is because there's no significance to the last game for a platform. The launch title article asserts the significance of these games by saying "Because they provide first impressions of the console's features and technical abilities, they are extremely important in the video game industry, and many launch titles have been killer games." eaolson 03:31, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I disagree. The last games released for consoles typically give us a look at the maximum potential of those consoles (as they are released at a time when developers have mastered a system's hardware), and also show us the extent of the support/lifespan of that console. In that respect, they are significant. Phediuk 14:05, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * If this article is about the life cycle of a console, then it should be about the life cycle of a console and the last game released for that console is irrelevant. eaolson 23:17, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions.   -- Zqui33 11:16, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep and Expand The problem as it stands now is that it's so small. I hate to throw around the word 'useful', but it's actually something that could be used as a point of research, which is what an encyclopedia is for, is it not? ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 12:01, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Extremely useful, as it's a great way to show and compare the commercial "lifespan" of each system. I don't understand the nominator's reasoning, especially the part about being slowest to market. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  12:10, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment. What I meant by that is the launch title for a console is a big deal. It's probably chosen because it showcases the capabilities of the new hardware, and there is often a lot of buzz surrounding them and their release is highly anticipated. Not so with the last game for a platform. I doubt a lot of production companies have "Yay, we're last!" parties. eaolson 03:31, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe they aren't throwing parties, but the last games let us see how long and extensively a console's life cycle is, and they mark the end of support for a given console (marking the transition to the next generation of consoles.) In that respect, they are significant and are deserving of recognition. Phediuk 22:15, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge trivia factoids to respective console main articles. Not much use combined in a list. Bwithh 13:03, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * This info belongs in the individual articles for each system. Delete.  Doc Sigma  (wait, what?)  14:08, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep and Expand This is useful and interesting information. There just needs to be more of it and it needs to be sourced. Phediuk 14:09, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep I'll be honest, I think this information would be better with the "First and Last" releases, to get a view of the system lifespan, and I think it's missing some notable consoles, like the Atari and Sega ones. Sure, this information could be in the individual console articles, but consolodating it is useful too.  FrozenPurpleCube 14:45, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge - as per Bwithh Asp 15:29, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment I would state that any system that doesn't have the info certainly should -- and without even checking would be willing to bet all the ones listed do; however, I still think that this list is worthwhile as stand alone info consoludated into one article, as well. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 15:58, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge to the articles on the consoles and the games. Recury 17:00, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. No need for this trivia. Madchen Hoch 22:09, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak reason for deleting an article. The "don't need" reasoning can be applied to anything on the site. Phediuk 22:21, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom; worst-case, merge per Bwithh. "Interesting" is a highly subjective but non-encyclopedic criterion, which is much more indicative of triviality than anything. As for "useful", which is also rather subjective, beyond the mere assertion that it is I don't buy that this is any more useful than any other trivia or indiscriminate material. Agent 86 22:42, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Launch titles have some verifiable significance; last games released have none except that being projected/ginned up here. Listcruft. --Calton | Talk 05:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The "verifiable" problem is easily solved through sourcing, which is the only problem with this lsit right now. As for significance, my other comments sum up my view nicely: "the last games let us see how long and extensively a console's life cycle is, and they mark the end of support for a given console (marking the transition to the next generation of consoles.) In that respect, they are significant and are deserving of recognition." Phediuk 22:19, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete (or merge). The mere fact that something is potentially interesting does not mean that it belongs in an encyclopedia.  Unlike lists of launch titles, lists of last titles can be extremely hard to verify, and may even become inaccurate without anyone noticing if a minor geographically-restricted release occurs after an entry for a console has been added.  In short, unmaintainable.  &mdash; Haeleth Talk 09:16, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, failing that Merge into respective console articles. These are valuable factoid when discussing the consoles in question; I'm not sure if needs an article if we're just listing the very last releases. Would be a very interesting article if it listed some of the very last releases, as well as the conditions that transpired (Sunday Funday is an unlicenced game, what's the last licenced release for NES? What was that homebrew game again that was released for Jaguar years later and sold in US and profits went to charity, if my memory doesn't fail me?) but even then, these factoids are probably best if they're stowed in the individual machine articles. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 15:05, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, listcruft. Pavel Vozenilek 16:36, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.