Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of letters that don't start with themselves phonetically


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. -→ Buchanan-Hermit ™ / ?!  05:36, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

List of letters that don't start with themselves phonetically
User:Sloverlord speedied this with the reason "Doesn't belong, there are articles about phoenetics already." User:NawlinWiki changed the speedy to prod (presumably because that doesn't qualify under the speedy criteria). I changed the prod to an AFD, because I don't think this information is duplicated in any of the other phoenetics articles, I think the information is interesting and useful and I think a debate should occur before this is deleted. ~ ONUnicorn (Talk / Contribs) 20:53, 29 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep per reasoning above. ~ ONUnicorn (Talk / Contribs) 20:53, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Though the list is a bit trivial, the article is alright. I'd say keep it per the reasoning above. -- Esteban   F.  (contribs)  21:02, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Oh-Ar. Pan Dan 21:15, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete, this is nonsense and a clear violation of Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information . User:Zoe|(talk) 21:21, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as being too trivial. Additionally, there are many dialects where H does in fact start with a "h" sound and while I know next to nothing about this sort of thing apart from as a hobby, I'd say it's possible to argue that Q starts with a sound different to the "k" it's credited with. BigHaz - Schreit mich an (Review me) 21:31, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete there being no encyclopaedic topic of leters which do not start with themselves phonetically, wich is in fact a complete dog's breakfast of a subject. Sub-trivial listcruft, OR, indiscriminate and overall a really terrible idea for an article. Guy 21:37, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Original research, unverifiable, doesn't allow for dialectal differences in pronunciation. --NMChico24 23:41, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, original research. The choices vary greatly with accent as well; for example H is pronounced HAYTCH rather than AYTCH as the article describes, at least from a quick survey of those sitting nearby (in Warwickshire, England) GeeJo (t)⁄(c) &bull; 00:24, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete and WP:DAFT. Ridiculous idea - and OR (is H "aych" or "haitch", and who's to say F isn't "feff" with a silent f?). Grutness...wha?  01:18, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
 * The IPA says that it isnt pronounced "feff" plus this is an article about phonetics, it doesn't matter whether or not its silent, because phonetically it doesn't start with an f. --User:REDMON89
 * Delete. Fascinating topic, but putting limits and conditions to this sort of list is difficult. It could be argued that this isn't OR, on the grounds that specifying what spelling you use and deriving the pronouncation that way is syllogistic. However, I also think this topic may not be very suited for encyclopedia and probably trivial and mergeworthy (put this in the articles on Am/Brit spelling if you dare): it might be more of Wiktionary's stuff, and I'm not sure they do this either. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 12:40, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as per Guy --Pan Gerwazy 18:54, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. No stardardized spellings exist to compile such a list. I don't find it encyclopedic either. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 08:07, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.