Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of libraries in Karachi


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The result was   keep. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  23:37, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

List of libraries in Karachi

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as per WP:NOTDIR, hardly any on these list are even notable, many are just simple public libraries. Michellecrisp (talk) 04:46, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * question: How you know that the libraries in the list are not notable? --Jmundo (talk) 05:20, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * best indicator would be if they had their own article or had a reference. this looks simply a list of mainly public libraries you would find in any large city. Michellecrisp (talk) 05:27, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That's not a reasonable idea. Not even all notable libraries in the Western world are covered; expecting any library in Karachi to be covered assumes someone in a very small group made a specific edit, the chance of which is very unlikely. Another evaluation method is needed. - Mgm|(talk) 23:41, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That wasn't the sole measure I was considering. given that a significant part of the list is ordinary municipal libraries, I think overall it doesn't warrant a stand alone article. Michellecrisp (talk) 11:39, 12 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep considering the cultural bias, this is the first step in writing articles about the notable among them. And they do not have to be individually notable if this is done as a combination article. In fact, we usually do not make individual articles on local libraries, but discuss them under a combined article for libraries in a larger subunit. DGG (talk) 05:52, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * yes but I've never seen a list of local libraries on Wikipedia. even collectively it's hard to justify an article out of this in my opinion. Michellecrisp (talk) 05:54, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NOTDIR; a list of libraries in London or New York would also not be likely to survive an AfD for the same reason. Nick-D (talk) 07:12, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete if one or several of the libraries are notable, articles should be created for them. WP:NOTDIR effectively means that inclusion and notability requirements are not lower in a list of items than in mainspace articles. Usrnme h8er (talk) 13:05, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Museums and libraries-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  22:04, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  22:05, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  22:05, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep--WP:CSB, we don't have any evidence that the libraries are not notable. How many people in Karachi have access to to the internet? The fact that the libraries don't have their own articles is not an indicator of notability in this case. The list is a good start, WP:DEADLINE. --Jmundo (talk) 00:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep perfectly valid use of a list and better than having articles on all the individual libraries. StarM  03:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep in the list of nine "List of libraries in X" : Bangladesh, Barnet, Gary, Hong Kong, Istanbul, Karachi, Singapore, Taipei, Thailand. Note, as DGG said, that individual libraries on this list are not under consideration, but rather the list itself, therefore "hardly any on these list are even notable" does not apply. Usefulness of this page is empirically observable; please show that 'simply a list of libraries' is a distinction that merits consideration for deletion. Comparison with other articles is hazardous, especially when one is comparing with the non-existence of similar articles (refuted above), or with the hypothetical result of a hypothetical AfD of a hypothetical article such as Libraries in New York. I hope to see new additions to this list, particularly since there are no major cities in this list west of Istanbul. Gary "is the largest city in Lake County, Indiana," not a person who eats libraries. Anarchangel (talk) 20:42, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep and perhaps add libraries from other parts of the country and rename to List of libraries in Pakistan to expand the scope to a more reasonable level. DHowell (talk) 06:20, 13 January 2009 (UTC)


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