Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of longest gaps between studio albums (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Various policy issues were raises in this, including whether it met WP:LISTN, WP:TRIVIA, whether TRIVIA was relevant for determining the actual retention of content, along with WP:SALAT which notes that a list may creatable but too broad to have value. In favour of retention was that there are sufficient sources to met LISTN requirements, and there is a certain degree of scope limitation.

Ultimately, the sourcing/NLIST reasoning had a sufficient majority, even factoring in at least 2 "weak keep" !votes to demonstrate a consensus for retention. Nosebagbear (talk) 16:21, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

List of longest gaps between studio albums
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Unsourced trivia. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:57, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:57, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:07, 16 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete - In the first AfD for this article there were some compelling "keep" votes with the rationale that there could be sources for the list, but here I am going to have to agree with the nominator. In addition to the WP:TRIVIA standard, see also WP:SALAT which says "some (list) topics are trivial, non-encyclopedic, or not related to human knowledge." Whenever an act takes an unusually long time between albums, it can be described at their own article, but there is little to be gained by comparing various artists in a list article like this as if notable patterns could be analyzed. I'll also point out that this list misses The Sonics at 48 years between original studio albums. Just sayin'. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 15:06, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - Isn't information about gaps between musical releases otherwise covered in the article 'development hell'? CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 15:54, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, I'd agree it was pure trivia but the list at least sets a minimum limit of 10 years and (with the exception of Stars in Battledress) only includes gaps involving at least one notable album. About sources, are we talking about sources for the release dates of both albums or sources that explicitly mention the gaps? Victão Lopes  Fala! 16:23, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , Many of the albums listed on that page are redlinks: How is that the only one that is non-notable? ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:53, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , I meant only one gap involves two non-notable albums. All the others have at least one blue link. Victão Lopes  Fala! 19:07, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Not really relevant on Wikipedia. MetalDiablo666 (talk) 17:36, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep The nomination does not have a valid reason to delete as the link to WP:TRIVIA is bogus – that's a quite different issue. The guideline that is actually relevant is WP:LISTN and this page passes it – see Music Times or Official Charts Andrew🐉(talk) 18:36, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep When they mention an album they do mention how long its been since the band last released one. This is a notable thing.  Perfectly valid list article.   D r e a m Focus  19:40, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , When writing about albums, we also write about the date they are released. Would List of albums released on April 21 also be a valid article? ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:49, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Unrelated. The date anything is done is mentioned.  There are list articles listing the bestselling albums of certain years though: Lists of albums.  Mentioning its been 20 years since the last album was released by a band, that's far more notable a fact.  You have to use common sense in these sorts of things.   D r e a m Focus  20:24, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - I do apologize for saying three years ago that I’d try to improve it, but not having that done yet. But it remains to be a notable subject, covered by reliable sources, and with a finite (not indiscriminate) scope, consisting of a list made entirely out of notable subject items. Sergecross73   msg me  20:30, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * A very weak Keep - A single source in the article, and little evidence provided of WP:NLIST thus far. I'm seeing some listicles and borderline sources around that might be sufficient, but it's all rather thin. Here's the best of what I can find: Billboard, maybe relevant CoS, Paste, Loudwire, maybe a bit more if we wrap in the concept of "comeback album"? Eh. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 03:09, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Lots of blue links. Also per WP:LISTN we keep lists that aide in navigation or provide information. Lightburst (talk) 20:49, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: It was agreed in the previous AfD to keep it. But, I believe it's mandatory for the list to have sources at most. The sources stated above make the list good enough to pass WP:LISTN. ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 06:45, 22 April 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.