Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of main streets for major cities


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was Delete. R e  dwolf24  (talk) 19:50, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

List of main streets for major cities
Another List that if it stays it probaly going to expand until there is no expanison left. And it is also a weak page.EX: click Orange Avenue and it take u to orange (fruit). and also Miami Avenue is not a major street in Miami Delete --Aranda56 01:01, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Ouch. Delete and make into a category instead. Such a list is by nature unmaintainable. Besides, this sentence "The first street listed is the major north-south street …. The second street is the major east-west street…." is perfectly US-centric; in cities not built on a square grid there are either many or just one "main street". Pilatus 01:30, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * There are many, many, many cities in the US that are not built on a square grid. And I'm sure there are a few cities outside of the US that are.  Your anti-Americanism is inappropriate.  User:Zoe|(talk) 05:31, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Based on the fact most street articles are about American and Canadian streets, I don't find it entirely surprising he made that comment. - Mgm|(talk) 08:17, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Most cities on a square grid are in North America due to the way the continent developed. Off the cuff I can come up with just two cities laid out in a square grid in all of Europe, which are the Baixa Pombalina in Lisbon and Mannheim in Germany. The whole entry feels as if it never even occurred to the author that a town might not be laid out in a square grid. Anti-Americanism is something else. Pilatus 11:27, 24 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete, this information should go into the articles on the cities. -- Kjkolb 02:42, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete before it grows. User:Zoe|(talk) 05:31, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Deleteas per Kjkolb Dlyons493 07:06, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. TheMadBaron 10:09, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, a user looking for this information should not have to visit several hundred or thousand separate articles to find it. Kappa 10:38, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * No, such users would consult Wikiatlas or Kappapedia. Pilatus 11:27, 24 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete: it doesn't work for non-square-grid cities, the information means very little out of context and the list will always be incomplete (and/or huge). Loganberry (Talk) 13:17, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Make into category. Andrew pmk | Talk 17:19, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Make this a catagory but begrudgingly so Stu 17:22, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Categorify actually quite useful but not as a list. &hearts; purplefeltangel ( talk ) &hearts; ( contribs ) 17:44, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * What would you possibly categorize? Every street in the world?  User:Zoe|(talk) 21:34, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Categorify. It's every major city's main street.  Superm401 | Talk 22:40, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete and do not make into a category as per Kjkolb. --Metropolitan90 23:10, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Categorify or keep, for that matter. If this category turns out to be impossible to maintain (a strong possibility) I'd reconsider the issue after giving it a chance to develop. It should also be noted that a city hardly needs a square plan to have a main north-south thoroughfare and a main east-west one. Christopher Parham (talk) 23:54, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * No it doesn't, but many cities (eg in Britain) have main streets that wiggle around so much that they can't even be said to be roughly north-south or east-west. And what if a city's main street is exactly NE-SW or NW-SE? Loganberry (Talk) 03:49, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Some cities don't really have a main street anyway, even those with a historical main street. Boston, Massachusetts for example -- while the historical main street was Washington Street, Washington St is now mostly one-way through most of downtown, and there are at least a half a dozen streets that could qualify as a main street but for one or another failing (don't pass through downtown, don't even make it to downtown, don't go all the way through the city, what have you). Across the river, Cambridge, Massachusetts has a Main Street that acts as a mostly-irrelevant westbound feeder road to the real main street, Massachusetts Avenue. And New York City, though its historical main street is Broadway, has so many major streets that it cannot be meaningfully said to have a main street at all. Haikupoet 05:15, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Under the definition that this article is using, Fifth Avenue is the main street in Manhattan for dividing the "east" streets from the "west" streets, and there is no main street for dividing the "north" streets from the "south" streets because Manhattan doesn't use those designations. This article is only relevant to cities with a square grid where streets are identified as east, west, north, and south, which does not apply to Boston, Cambridge, and most cities in Europe. --Metropolitan90 20:02, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Well that's another problem with this article, isn't it -- a rather quirky definition of what qualifies as a main street. I go with the person who pointed out below that major cities have downtowns and CBDs, and the "main street" concept is more or less irrelevant. Haikupoet 20:27, 25 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete - interesting enough in the grand scheme of things, but unmaintainable (and possibly irrelevant for a number of major cities anyway). Haikupoet 03:40, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete *drew 07:27, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Oxymoron. 'Major cities' do not have 'Main streets', they have CBDs (Central Business District). Small towns have Main streets, and are entirely built around them. The list has to get a lot more specific in order to be useful. Does it mean the busiest roads? or the ones with the most shopping? Or business (ie. highest rent per square foot)? In major cities these are all different roads. Btw, Delete. --maclean25 08:40, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. A category could be made of "List of main streets for major American cities", but this would be simply meaningless throughout much of the rest of the world. Vizjim 13:51, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Inherently innacurate (note Madison in Chicago, e.g.--why not Warren Blvd.?  Why not I-290? why not Eisenhower?).  As for a category--anyone is welcome to make a category who wishes, but it would be a lot of work and isn't really relevant to the deletion of this page. Chick Bowen 17:29, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Because Madison Street in Chicago divides the north streets from the south streets, as State Street divides the east streets from the west streets. The article is accurate, but the topic is not encyclopedic. --Metropolitan90 20:02, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Ah, you mean according to the original grid--that is, nominally--not according to current geography. In that case, if there is a category (and I still have my doubts about the usefulness of such a category), it should certainly not be named "Main streets," which is misleading, but something like, "Grid-dividing streets." Chick Bowen 20:47, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, since the list is not very well defined. Though if the information were kept the list would be far more useful than a category. How am I supposed to find the main street in Atlanta from a category unless I already know it to be Peachtree Street, for example. Flowerparty ■ 03:28, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.