Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of major artifacts in Dungeons & Dragons (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Magic item (Dungeons & Dragons). Although I'll have to AfD that article as well because it, too, suffers form a severe case of cruft.  Sandstein  20:38, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

List of major artifacts in Dungeons & Dragons
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Violates WP:GAMEGUIDE, and doesn't contain any reliable secondary sources. Wikipedia is not Wikia, this information is unencyclopedic. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 09:59, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 10:27, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 10:27, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Token WP:GAMECRUFT. Ajf773 (talk) 10:28, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge to Magic item (Dungeons & Dragons). BOZ (talk) 11:49, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge to Magic item (Dungeons & Dragons). Only a few of these have articles (or should!). The entire point of embedded lists of subtopical things is to allow coverage in concise form and discourage the creation of pointless micro-stubs on non-notables. The entries are sourced, and they really are limited to major items in gameplay (counting all the modules and books, a list of all named artifacts would be at least 1,000 items long). This list is reasonable, it just doesn't belong as a stand-alone article, because the main article is short, and the topic "major artifact[s] in D&D" isn't notable in and of itself, though it is discriminate (encyclopedic), not trivia.  This seems comparable to other game/fiction stuff.  D&D basically doesn't consist of anything but a few kinds of named game elements: key characters and fictional races, magic items like these, and fictional spells and abilities (or fictionalized reductions of real-world abilities into gameplay elements), plus some fictional places.  That's not a tremendous amount of stuff, and our videogame coverage tends to be comparable; same with fiction franchises.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  12:39, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge with article Dungeons and Dragons. Vorbee (talk) 15:13, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge Only 9 of them have links, and some of those are redirects. So not a valid list for Wikipedia.   D r e a m Focus  19:37, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge per SMcC. Same basic argument I gave at Articles for deletion/Magic of Dungeons & Dragons, except that in this case the more appropriate article title already exists as a separate article, so merge rather than outright keep. Not having checked I am not certain every item on the list is technically a magical item, and I'm a big believer in Wikipedia being not only verifiable but WP:TRUE, so the merge should probably be selective at first. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 13:55, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
 * On second thought, breaking that table apart would be messy, and a bunch of them probably need to be removed because they are not major (entries sourced to novels, for instance, don't even necessarily "exist" in the game proper; R. A. Salvatore's novels don't generally come with game stats, even if some gamers might home-brew their own versions), rather than because they are not magical. My initial proposal would have made a merge near-impossible on its face. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 14:03, 18 July 2018 (UTC)


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