Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of major cities in the United States lacking an NFL franchise


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The result was delete. Something of a WP:SNOW finish to this one. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:48, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

List of major cities in the United States lacking an NFL franchise

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Fails WP:LISTN. Grouping not discussed in independent reliable sources, and the selection criteria of "metro populations greater than 800,000" is completely arbitrary. —Bagumba (talk) 03:04, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Doesn't seem like a worthy list. Would be better if this information was included in National Football League under a section titled Future Expansion that included cities that have a source. Some of the information could be included in List of defunct National Football League franchises. Agree with nominator, completely arbitrary and no sources for most of the cities as ever having been in the discussion for an NFL team. « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  03:15, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. North America1000 03:31, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. North America1000 03:31, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete Per WP:NLIST WP:SALAT: an arbitrary list criterion. Would support creation of a section of National Football League addressing future expansion possibilities that have been discussed in reliable secondary sources, i.e. Las Vegas, San Antonio, Texas. MisterRandomized (talk) 04:55, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete This list seems utterly pointless and unnecessary.-- 717 06:57, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Majority of entries have "never hosted an NFL franchise", and I suspect there's little if any coverage on the absence of an NFL franchise for such entries. Likely fails WP:SIGCOV.  Potentially POV given the recent Rams' recent move back to Los Angeles (St. Louis fans), and the possibility of a Raiders move (Oakland fans).  Following up on Gonzo, whatever content does not belong in the defunct NFL teams list can probably find its way into the team or team-history articles for the Rams & Raiders.   Levdr1 lp  /  talk  10:46, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Pure trivia, because most major American cities don't have NFL franchises.  Not even New York has one (the "New York" teams are both in New Jersey), and the article is clueless about US metropolitan areas, of which there are 388.  Those are WP:SOFIXIT problems, but this list has the fundamental problem that we don't maintain lists of things without X when the list of things with X is much smaller.  Nyttend (talk) 11:24, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:INDISCRIMINATE when considered in conjunction with the sources. There is a group of cities that would pass WP:LISTN as "cities regularly discussed as potential locations for NFL teams". This is not that group. It's not even close to that group. ~ RobTalk 12:05, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SALAT....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:17, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - for several reasons, including WP:INDISCRIMINATE and WP:SALAT. 15:50, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SALAT and WP:OR; the items included in this list are not discussed in reliable sources. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 20:26, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Insufficiently notable and cohesive as a stand-alone list. Cbl62 (talk)
 * Delete a list of "stuff where something is not" has no value. It's simply the opposite of "a list of something" -- thin this case, a list of NFL teams.  Any city not on one list is on the other.  Duh.  We already have National Football League franchise moves and mergers and other relevant and worthwhile lists and articles.  I see no value in this.--Paul McDonald (talk) 14:02, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


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