Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of massacres in Germany


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The result was   keep. The Bushranger One ping only 01:01, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

List of massacres in Germany

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This list is so far from completion that IMHO it conveys, by omission, more false information than it contributes, and should be therefore deleted. I'm referring e.g. to the article de:Endphasenverbrechen, which lists hundreds of massacres for 1944/1945 alone. Seelefant (talk) 11:11, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
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 * WP:SOFIXIT. But of course, we aren't bound to the same inclusion criteria as other language wikis, so that a German list has a lot more content may be helpful to know but doesn't dictate our choices here. This kind of list, in any event, is never "complete", but rather may be limited to entries that merit articles (as a complement to Category:Massacres in Germany) or to some other consensus-supported standard that sets some kind of meaningful threshold as far as what constitutes a "massacre". I think that all adds up to a keep. postdlf (talk) 21:32, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete This seems to be a purely arbitrary list, and always will be without an agreed definition for inclusion. I do not see that being possible whilst maintaining a neutral point of view. --AJHingston (talk) 23:55, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Category:Lists of massacres by country is a standard article type on Wikipedia, since there is an article like this for most major countries in the world (89), missing Germany would be strange. Content issues can be worked out by consensus on the list talk page. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 07:06, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - per green cardamoms reasoning. basic standard article on several wikipedias.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:26, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Nomination says basically nothing but that the article needs improvement, shows even how it can be improved by comparing it to the German article, but instead of lifting a finger to actually improve it (or ask people to do it on some relevant Wikiproject) prefers to just erase it? Sorry, this isn't going to fly. What can be fixed by standard editing isn't gonna be deleted, per our deletion policy. Especially if we have a good example to follow to improve it (I'd do, but my German is basically non-existent).-- cyclopia speak! 22:05, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep -- We have a lot of such articles for differnet countries. The present one is severely incomplete, but that is a reason to improve it, not delete it!  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:50, 24 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - As a subject for a WP article, clearly meets WP:GNG given the number of articles on the same subject about other nations. If anything, the article needs considerable improvement as, strangely, only one  pre-1945 massacre, going back to 782 is listed.- Zananiri (talk) 13:33, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
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