Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of mayors of Apex, North Carolina


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The result was redirect to Apex, North Carolina as a valid ATD despite it not likely being a search term. As gidonb says, some of the mayors are mentioned here. I'm leaving the history intact under the redirect as there's no reason to delete-the issue is with the location of the content, not them being memorialized. Star  Mississippi  01:21, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

List of mayors of Apex, North Carolina

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List of not notable local politicians. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 17:29, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete At less than 60,000 Apex is still not at a level that a mayor is presumed to be default notable, especially since it is in a county with 1.1 million people, and not by any measure the leading community in the county. In the 1990 census barely 30 years ago its population was still under 5,000. In the same time period the county population has more than doubled. We seem to have articles on none of the people on the list, and if we did it would probably be a case like some cities I can think of where a mayor later became a member of the US house, but that is not a sign that being mayor itself was truly notable, and not a reason to create a list of mayors of a place.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:35, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Apex is not large enough that its mayors would be presumed notable just for existing as mayors, so it's not the kind of place where we need to retain a list of non-notable people referenced exclusively to a primary source. Bearcat (talk) 17:52, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Apex, North Carolina. At 60k, Apex is a sizable city. Nevertheless, none of its mayors have entries as of yet. Hence, per WP:ATD, redirect this list to Apex, North Carolina. Several of the mayors are mentioned at Apex, North Carolina and the mayor of Apex gets updated right there! Without prejudice against recreation if and when multiple mayors ever get stable articles. gidonb (talk) 13:26, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Importance is not found by size alone. A place this size in the immediate vicinity of a much larger city does not have the importance that a quick analysis of size alone would suggest. Also, its current size is a very recent development.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:55, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Correct. Apex grew most of the 20th century, and the growth in the 1990s was explosive. You're making a solid argument to keep. But even with this large population, theoretically, a mayor can be elected and shortly thereafter die or resign. Or when Apex was small an accomplished business leader or academic may have become mayor or a mayor may have had a notable political or managerial career after their term. As you mention, one does not know by size alone. All this is very interesting in theory BUT we are not discussing here whether to keep or delete a mayor's article. This is about a list that, objectively, has no items with articles. Hence a redirect per WP:ATD makes sense. Keep or merge not as much. At least not to me. If other editors create solid articles, I'll reconsider. For me, the proof is in the pudding. gidonb (talk) 00:24, 5 February 2022 (UTC)


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