Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of mayors of Phillipsburg, New Jersey


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The result was merge to Phillipsburg, New Jersey. Liz Read! Talk! 20:47, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

List of mayors of Phillipsburg, New Jersey

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Another list of non-notable small town mayors. Fails WP:NLIST and WP:NOTDIR. Sourced mostly to the local newspaper, but also politicalgraveyard.com (which is not a reliable source). Still, regardless of sourcing, with one exception, none of the people are notable in any way. In order for this to be a suitable topic for a list, either a number of the people in the list must be notable themselves or the topic itself should be notable enough that reliable sources discuss the group as a whole. Rusf10 (talk) 02:29, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Lists of people, Politics,  and New Jersey. Rusf10 (talk) 02:29, 6 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete This list has no reliable sources, is missing major parts of the list, all information was gathered in the past month, and no significant coverage was cited. It fails WP:LSC, and has no WP:Notability basis. Toast   (talk)  02:50, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * the morning call is a reliable source and has been included in several other lehigh valley specific articles. All the articles in the reference list offer significant coverage of the mayors in question. I don't see how the time of me retreiving the articles would make the list insignificant. Scu ba (talk) 02:59, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Morning call is a regional newspaper that has been treated as a reliable source in the past. Charles Sitgreaves is notable and has a page. Gloria Decker would be a second notable member of the list although she doesn't have her own article. she was the executive for Warren county and held a couple of roles in state government. Scu ba (talk) 03:01, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * It's not that the newspaper isn't reliable, its that it is intended for a local audience. Every mayor in America has had an article written about him or her in the local newspaper, that does not give them automatic notability. Also, because one (or possibly two) members of this list are notable, it does not make the entire group notable. If say half the people on the list were notable, then you would have an argument, but that is not the case.--Rusf10 (talk) 03:52, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Again the morning call has been treated as a source that passes notability in prior articles regarding issues in the Lehigh Valley. Phillipsburg is the largest city in Warren County and I feel that warrants its mayors as being treated as a group of notable people. Two of them pass the case for individual notability and articles can be made about them. Scu ba (talk) 18:34, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * No, it does not work that way. Just because the source is notable, it does not grant auto-notability to every single topic that they write an article on. At a minimum, there should be multiple reliable sources and the sources probably should have a more widespread audience.--Rusf10 (talk) 04:05, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete list of non-notable people. Dronebogus (talk) 04:14, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Phillipsburg is the largest city in Warren county. I feel like that makes its mayors notable enough to be listed. Scu ba (talk) 18:35, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The largest city where? Dronebogus (talk) 08:30, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Largest city in Warren County Scu ba (talk) 04:00, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
 * "Largest city in its county" has nothing to do with Wikipedia's inclusion criteria Bearcat (talk) 14:46, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * But it literally does
 * "The notability guideline does not apply to the contents of articles. It also does not apply to the contents of stand-alone lists, unless editors agree to use notability as part of the list selection criteria. Content coverage within a given article or list (i.e. whether something is noteworthy enough to be mentioned within the article or list) is governed by the principle of due weight, balance, and other content policies."
 * "Because the group or set is notable, the individual items in the list do not need to be independently notable, although editors may, at their discretion, choose to limit large lists by only including entries for independently notable items or those with Wikipedia articles."
 * Being the mayor of the largest city in a county makes the list of mayors notable. each individual mayor doesn't need to be notable, however, two of them do reach notability requirements. Scu ba (talk) 23:35, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. User page of scu ba, creator of the page and commenter above: "I will keep filing this online encyclopedia with obscure peoples and factoids". Do we really want Wikipedia to be filled with obscure people and factoids?   Athel cb (talk) 08:52, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * No, in fact their refusal to get the point of the AFDs and desire to knowingly create additional work for other editors is borderline disruptive. Dronebogus (talk) 11:48, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge with Phillipsburg, New Jersey. —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 12:03, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge with Phillipsburg, New Jersey. Djflem (talk) 15:05, 6 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep a list of people who are individually non-notable is perfectly reasonable and a position like mayor is a perfect example of this. Would also be fine with merging to the city's article. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 05:26, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete We are not a directory of the trivially obscure. Zaathras (talk) 05:42, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge with Phillipsburg, New Jersey. The list of mayors of any municipality is not trivial or obscure. When lists become too long in a parent article, they can be split off into separate articles. --Enos733 (talk) 16:45, 8 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge. NavjotSR (talk) 15:59, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge with Phillipsburg, New Jersey, (possibly as a drop-down list added to that section) as a viable alternative to deletion. A standalone page is unwarranted, as noted by Rusf10 and Toast, the subject fails WP:NLIST, WP:NOTDIR, WP:LSC, and WP:N. Sal2100 (talk) 20:41, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge with Phillipsburg, New Jersey. This is an appropriate entry there that should have never been a stand-alone article. Joyous! | Talk 18:27, 13 November 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.