Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of mayors of Taunton, Massachusetts


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. I know that I have commented in this discussion, but the nominator had already made a botched attempt to withdraw that I hadn't noticed and it's pretty much snow keep anyway. SpinningSpark 19:04, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

List of mayors of Taunton, Massachusetts

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This list does not have many reliable sources, and most of these people do not qualify by the notability criteria. Interstellarity (talk) 18:07, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 18:11, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 18:11, 16 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep See Category:Lists of mayors of places in the United States. Not every entry on a list needs its own article for a list article to exist.  Plenty of blue links though to justify it.   D r e a m Focus  19:22, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep: Per Dream Focus. I'm assuming that more of them are notable, but that no articles were created yet for them. SL93 (talk) 22:16, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 09:47, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep. We do not have any rule that every mayor of a town or city always has to already be bluelinked before we're allowed to create or maintain a list of their names; open-ended lists that are vulnerable to the addition of self-promotional wannabe spam, like a generic list of writers or musicians, can have an "article must already exist" restriction placed on them, but closed-ended lists with tightly defined inclusion criteria, like a list of past and present holders of a specific political office, are not barred from containing redlinked or unlinked names — as long as the person's membership in that defined topic is verifiable, they're allowed to be named in the list whether they have an article or not. Spotchecking some of the articles that do exist, I can see that their actual notability may sometimes be debatable — Taunton isn't large enough to guarantee every mayor an instant free pass over WP:NPOL #2 just because he exists, but not all of the articles I randomly spotchecked are referenced well enough to get the subject over the bar — but deleting the list now is putting the cart before the horse. If you have questions about the notability of some or all of the mayors in this list who have articles, then tackle getting those non-notable mayors deleted first, and then we can revisit whether the list is worth keeping anymore on the basis of however many articles are left once the problematic ones have been canned. But as things stand right now, enough of the mayors in this list do have articles whether they should or not, and there's no rule that they all have to have articles before a list of them is allowed to exist. Bearcat (talk) 21:17, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Procedural keep there are dozens of such articles, nominator should have considered that before nominating.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 21:59, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2019 August 19.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 03:49, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep some articles like theses don't even have blue-linked mayors. Nigos (t@lk • Contribs) 12:32, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. The nominator has made the classic mistake at AFD of confusing absence of sources in the aricle with non-existence of sources. As a check, I searched for the first unsourced entry, "Onias S. Paige", and found a source which also verifies several other entries.  Please read WP:BEFORE before making any more AFD nominations.  Also, as others have said, it is not necessary for every entry on a list to be notable, per WP:CSC criteria #2 and #3. SpinningSpark 14:03, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I withdraw the nomination. Interstellarity (talk) 16:12, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


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