Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of mini-games in Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars


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The result was   merge to Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars.  MBisanz  talk 16:33, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

List of mini-games in Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars

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List of non-notable minigames for an unreleased game, written in a game guide format. Haipa Doragon (talk • contributions) 15:20, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. MrKIA11 (talk) 15:23, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as a non-notable and unencyclopaedic article. --DanielRigal (talk) 15:23, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep The fact the game isn't released yet has no bearing on the notability of the minigames. The game itself is widely discussed and is worth an article. A logical follow-up conclusion would be that the minigames list is a valid use of Summary style. Not all entries are pure game guide writing and the ones that are can be fixed through editing rather than deletion. Any sort of rewrite that consisely discusses the minigames could save this. (If the outcome is delete despite my comment, I'd like to urge the deleting admin, to leave a note (or "userfy") to the WikiProject for video games which is highly active and is likely interested in making the neccesary edits. - Mgm|(talk) 17:18, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep appropriate article to help clarify this material. separate articles on such things have been occasionally tried, and this way is much better. Combination articles are usually the way to go for fiction elements. DGG (talk) 17:35, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as they are completely non-notable and non-encyclopedic, it's written like a game guide and they could be explained within a couple of sentences in a gameplay section of the main article. -- .: Alex  :.  17:57, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom and Alex. Ddawkins73 (talk) 18:03, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I've transwikied this page over to StrategyWiki:Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars/Minigames. -- Prod (Talk) 19:01, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars this is a clean-cut spin-out which is advised against by WP:VGSCOPE with good reason, it's an inexperienced editor acting in good faith and writing the easier way - breaking something down into component parts. There is nothing here which cannot be covered in the Chinatown Wars gameplay sections, that's what it's for, all this does is generate excess baggage in the form of section headings and do away with the notion of giving this part of gameplay appropriate weight within the game's article. Merge it in its entirity and let someone remove the baggage, end of problem. Spinning out articles is fine if it is shown that they're supported by sources and can stand on their own two feet, but in this case it's an unfinished article and the minigames don't need spinning out any more than the reception or development sections. Someoneanother 19:18, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge all verifiable content to Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars. I don't see why at this time it cannot be included in that section. MuZemike 20:46, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Listcruft at its worst. I'm  Jack (Lumber) and I approve this message. 01:52, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Seems useful. Hogvillian (talk) 02:54, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not useful. Game guide content. --SkyWalker (talk) 05:59, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - Not only is it guide content, but it's guide content for a secondary feature of the game. We don't have a list of mini-games for any one of the entries in the most popular party video game series ever created, but we need this? - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 06:41, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge significant content details (sample minigames, etc.) to GTA:CW, but Delete the list (unlikely search term). List of minigames in a game is not appropriate as it is gameguide content, even if it is sourced by a reliable third-party.  Should (after release) one or more of the minigames gain additional reputation, they can be described more in the GTA:CW article. --M ASEM  16:32, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge only merge if we can get more citations for it. Pro66 (talk) 19:09, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Summarize and merge: See WP:NOTDIR. We don't mention every detail of a game. But a summary of some of the key minigames would be appropriate in the main article. Randomran (talk) 05:24, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Excellent list article. An editor of this list article really should read WP:NOT, list passes with flying colors. --Mr Accountable (talk) 06:26, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * No, it clearly violates that section by being a list of non-notable minigames. You're not being sarcastic, are you? Haipa Doragon (talk • contributions) 12:10, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


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