Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of minor Ranma ½ characters (manga)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 02:40, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

List of minor Ranma ½ characters (manga)

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List of self-admitted minor characters from the manga series, all primarily one-chapter or one-volume characters that are of little consequence to series plot. Fails WP:N, WP:WAF, and WP:PLOT. Absolutely no third party sourcing mentioning this minor characters at all. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 19:27, 10 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions.  -- --  Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 19:28, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as fancruft. -- Goodraise (talk) 19:34, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Fancruft is not a valid criterion for deletion, please be more specific and use objective criteria. - Mgm|(talk) 00:32, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * But that's exactly what it is. "Minor" characters, only appearing in the manga and only in very small parts of it. I'll gladly go into more detail, if this gets even a single "keep". -- Goodraise (talk) 01:26, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Elaborating as promised: 98% of the article is plot summary (violation of WP:PLOT). The remaining 2% violate the original research (WP:OR) and verifiability policies (WP:V) with speculations such as "which [...] indicates that Yohyo is wealthy" or "he seems to be of at least Ranma's level" and comparasions with other characters like "[h]is personality and tendencies are very similar to Miroku the lecherous monk". As a whole the article's topic isn't notable by any measure. It passes neither the general notability guideline (WP:GNG) nor the previous or the currently proposed notability guideline for fictional topics (WP:FICT). A merge, for example to List of Ranma ½ characters, is also pointless, as these characters would be excessive detail to such an article. The characters are in fact so unimportant, that even after having read the manga multiple times, I couldn't recognize most of the characters by their names. That of course only applies to characters who actually have names and aren't simply listed by their relation to more important characters like "Shampoo's Father" or "Saotome family ancestors", or even simply by what they are, as in "Cursed Bathing Suit" and "Shotgun bean plant". - In short: It's fancruft (WP:FANCRUFT). -- Goodraise (talk) 17:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete as per nom and my noms for the other lists (good catch). What this series needs is a list of the major characters, instead of a couple dozen dedicated character lists and 3 minor lists. Creating a list article for the main/notable recurring characters is no easy task given the state of the dedicated character articles, but needs to be done Dandy Sephy (talk) 19:35, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Minor characters are collectively important to the story, and no different from other articles such South Park. Btw: I should probably mention that the original article was split due to the original length, and that several of the characters such as Maomolin, Mint & Lime, Picolet and similar, are more relevant, but didn't have enough material for their own separate pages. Dave (talk) 13:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The only reason the "original" list was too long was because of the extremely excessive amounts of plot summary for this minor characters in ALL of the lists. And no, minor characters are not collectively important and per many other AfDs and mergers, they are particularly not notable enough in anime/manga series to have their own lists, much less three. Any that may have any minor relevance should be mentioned in the single List of Ranma ½ characters that no one has bothered making (despite apparently having time to make three lists for unimportant minor characters). South Park is not an ideal model for any thing, nor is it an anime/manga series. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 17:06, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comparing this list to an unassessed article tagged with an original research tag really isn't a compelling argument to keep the article, its more of an argument to get rid of the southpark list. (see WP:OTHERSTUFF) -- Kraftlos  (Talk | Contrib) 06:27, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Not every character in a series deserves an entry in a character list. Especially incidental or one-shot characters who have no role in the overall plot line—not that Ranma 1/2 has much of a plot line to begin with. If the primary characters aren't worthy for a list article, then the minor characters especially shouldn't have their own list article(s) either. --Farix (Talk) 17:27, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. Farix' summary says what I'd say. Too many unimportant characters, not needed for understanding the shallow plots of Ranma, which are 'character gets wet, character changes form, hilarity ensues.' ThuranX (talk) 07:27, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You left out "one or more rivals show up". —Quasirandom (talk) 14:33, 12 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. Per above comments.Tintor2 (talk) 15:33, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. I was involved with setting up this list as well as the other three minor character lists, but my interests and priorities both Wiki wise and in real life have since changed.  Migrate the information over to the Ranma Wikia before deleting.  -- Broken Sphere Msg me 00:19, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete (save a copy and migrate the information to the Ranma wiki) - We really shouldn't have lists of minor anything, minor indicates that the topic is not notable. Wikipedia is supposed to be written for the average reader; I highly doubt this information would be useful to anyone other than the avid Ranma fan.  -- Kraftlos  (Talk | Contrib) 06:27, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete and migrate the information. じん   ない  10:24, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete/Merge Delete article but merge appropriate info to main article. --HighKing (talk) 18:21, 14 January 2009 (UTC)


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