Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of minor Robot Wars contestants (UK)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 09:17, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

List of minor Robot Wars contestants (UK)

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 * Queried delete. This page existed from 17:41, 11 March 2007 to 13:21, 20 July 2007 and had 833 edits; at the end it seems to have been ad-hoc deleted without any sign of for deletion (speedy or ordinary or AfD), and with nothing about deletion in its talk page. Robot Wars (TV series) was a popular series in Britain. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:15, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Couple of points from the history; the article, according to its log, was deleted under CSD:A7. This was entirely inapropriate as A7 applies only to people, organisations or web sites and robots clearly do not fit any of these so bringing to AfD is correct.  Secondly, the creator of the article himself seems to agree with the deletion, he states he only created it in order to put a large number of non-notable articles in one place (note that he has confusingly changed his username in the meantime). Towards the end, there was debate on the talk page over deleting non-notable robots and many were (including "Full Metal Anorak" which should have been kept on the basis of its name alone).  The biggest difficulty in deciding what to include, however, is that absolutely none of the entries are referenced and it seems many editors were quite thankful when it was deleted as this avoided that impossible task.  A great shame, looking down the list I can remember many of those robots fighting, often notable only for comedy value, not how far they got in the competition.  Was I supposed to !vote? Sorry, I have no idea.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  15:40, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * "not referenced': some would say that the television series, which will almost certainly be on video at the television company, and very many people saw it, is the reference. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:08, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I have a real problem with that argument which is commonly used by soap fans and results in articles on "43B Albert Square" and the like. To my mind the tape is a primary source.  It is ok to use primary sources (with caution) but only after first establishing notability with reliable secondary sources.  But in any case, there is no indication in the article of where the information came from at all - primary or secondary.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  16:27, 2 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Sane as for non-robots, they have to win or at least come near. But is there a Wikia to move this to? DGG (talk) 16:20, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure is.  Sp in ni ng  Spark  16:28, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I have copied the article over to robotwars wikia. I gave them this older version as I figured they would probably be interested in the nn's as well. DGG, some of the images have been deleted as they were orphaned while the article was deleted.  Would it be possible to temporarily undelete them so they can be moved across also?  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  16:58, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * They're all non-free and were just copied from the Internet. It shouldn't be too hard to find the originals. Black Kite 17:27, 2 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Transwiki per DGG. Note: I originally created this article as a "List of..." as a merge of many non-notable articles, but most of the redirects have been removed since and we're not left with much encyclopedic. Black Kite 17:25, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Robotwars Wikia don't want it transwikied.  Sp in ni ng  Spark  17:41, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Robot Wars Wiki's deletion log for their page [List of minor Robot Wars contestants] says "17:03, 2 April 2009 CBFan (Talk | contribs) deleted "List of minor Robot Wars contestants (UK)" ‎ (This is a blatant Copy'n'Paste of an old Wikipedia article. Not only that, but seeing as every robot will have its own article unless otherwise stated, this is pointless. Removed.)". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 18:28, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * [[Image:SNive.gif|19px]] Thank you for giving such prominence to how badly I got flamed on that site.  Sp in ni ng  Spark  14:09, 3 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I have found that some of the robots mentioned in this page (at least, in old edits of it) are not in the Robot Wars wiki yet. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:02, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - So, essentially, we can't even give this article away. -- Whpq (talk) 17:20, 3 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep The C of E (talk) 10:03, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as there aren't any independant reliable sources that can back this up.  Them From  Space  21:37, 5 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.