Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of minor Star Wars Jedi knights


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

Speedy keep as premature. Though the nominator didn't know it at the time, this article was in AfD from the end of September to well into October. Surviving articles should be left alone for a length of time before another deletion attempt. There's no clear place where the line is drawn, but it is drawn beyond mere weeks. This is to allow editors to fix things and/or to decide on an alternate solution to ensure the quality of Wikipedia's coverage of the field (both of which tend to go slow on a volunteer project, too, even when not dealing with a massive and tough article that's a part of the coverage of several dozen works.) Plus rapid renominations, "asking the other parent", would allow persistence and luck to (further) supplant the importance of article merits.

Two other things: I generally recuse myself from closing fiction deletions due to my own activity, but this was procedural (and others were cons bugged about it, to be on the safe side.) A general apology for letting the discussion continue a bit after seeing it, but I'm for once confident that you'll understand I was unavoidably delayed. --Kizor 06:34, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

List of minor Star Wars Jedi knights

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This article is just a giant plot summary (see WP:NOT) with no analysis and nothing to indicate real world notability. It is just info about characters with no real world context at all. It has been tagged for a while and shows no signs of improvement. It does not cite reliable secondary sources per WP:FICT and is cannot be cited to meet the criteria of notability established therein (A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject). Remember, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information (WP:NOT). Additionally, I cite precedent from the Articles_for_deletion/List_of_ancient_Jedi AFD. Pilotbob 05:01, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Question. By your rationale, should all of the lists in Category:Lists of Star Wars characters be nominated for deletion under WP:FICT? —Disavian (talk/contribs) 05:09, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Please take note of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. I have not reviewed that entire list of articles so I  cannot honestly answer your question.   Pilotbob 05:41, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying that this should be kept because those articles exist; I'm asking if they should be nominated as well. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 05:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow not sure about the category. I think more articles listed in the category should have a pass through AFD, if enough of those are deleted then yes, the catgory should go. A chill ran down my spine when I looked at List of Star Wars Characters man theres a lot to clean up. Ridernyc 23:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment - This list was previously AfDed at Articles for deletion/List of minor Star Wars Sith characters. --EEMIV (talk) 05:14, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - I thought this was an interesing read, andin the end isn't that what wikipedia is here for? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Browny3 (talk • contribs) 13:30, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. Browny should take note that "an interesting read" is not what WP is here for. – Mike . lifeguard  &#124; @en.wb 21:08, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:Plot and WP:WAF. No real world context at all. There is already a Star Wars Wiki for this type of content. Ridernyc 21:19, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete- There is no out of universe information, such has how they were created and what roles they play in the Star Wars fiction. Without that, this is just plot summary of various stories, and is totally duplicative. Judgesurreal777 22:19, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete As much as I enjoy looking at and reading about big blue elephant-like jedi knights... NN, as the title suggests, completely in-universe and unreferenced fancruft. • 97198  talk  09:49, 7 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.