Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of monarchs deposed before the 17th century


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The result was keep.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:06, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

List of monarchs deposed before the 17th century

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Delete list with arbitrary inclusion criterion (before 17th Century). Doczilla 21:11, 10 April 2007 (UTC) However,if enough data comes together,ill split the article into other sub-sections for other centuries.(Gotta go,im on the PC secertly,so I dont want to be discovered) New Babylon 16:27, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep in some form. List of monarchs deposed in the 19th century shows how the list could be developed and improved; the information on the list could be useful.  Only concern is the date which seems to have been chosen in order to ensure reasonable numbers on each list, but a better format - either per millenium or each century would be preferable to establish a uniform format.  Davewild 21:33, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Though the dates should be better chosen. I'm not sure centuries is the right unit 1789 is a good cu-off, as is 1848 and 1919. I note that any delimination can be called arbitrary. DGG 05:25, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The 19th Century list covers the entire 19th Century. No reason is indicated for why the entirety of human existence "before" the 17th Century is historically unique instead of also breaking down by 16th, 15th, etc. Therefore this division in history is arbitrary. Doczilla 05:28, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Similar list discussed here. Historic list of encyclopedic interest to those studying political history and royalty. Article title may seem arbitrary, but it is a way of keeping the list of reasonable length. Sjakkalle (Check!)  06:49, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Lists (and articles) broken up for reasons of length should be treated together, and sneaky attempts to pick them off one by one should be resisted. Johnbod 13:33, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * VERY VERY VERY VERY STRONG KEEP!!!! I dont know why they keep on trying-the "Lists of Monarchs deposed etc." have been targetted several times and always kept.I im the one who created 19Oth-before 17th century,though under another name,so I have say.And to Davewilds complaint:well,ive been losing,originaly,sources that told me DISTINCTLY if that and that ruler was deposed or not,so,feeling that not enough data can be provided for the 16th century alone (and earlier epochs) to stand independantly,I chose to track them down since before the last plain "century" page,ergo "17th century".
 * Delete (based on sublist for Bohemia): neither monarch or being deposed is the correct term for early Premyslids and their mutual struggles for power. The list is copied from the List_of_rulers_of_Bohemia, w/o any outside reference, w/o any context. Charles V and couple of others abdicated voluntarily (abdication != being deposed), being killed in a battle (Roderic) should not be labeled as deposed, etc etc. Pavel Vozenilek 00:05, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Although this sounds poor, inaccuracy in a particular part of the list is not a reason for deletion. Perhaps you could correct them. The English list is ok except Richard II was deposed rather than abdicating, which I have corrected.Johnbod 01:25, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.