Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of most-viewed Asian music videos on YouTube


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Similar lists have indeed come up before, and tend to end with the same result. Worth noting that this one has two qualifiers (Asian, music). ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 21:58, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

List of most-viewed Asian music videos on YouTube

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This page is somewhat of a content fork of List of most-viewed YouTube videos and fails WP:NOTDIR point #6 (non-encyclopedic cross-categorizations). We do not need a list of every subgenre of "most viewed" videos on YouTube; the main page handles that well enough. And yes, this is the same nomination rationale as for the Indian version of this page. Primefac (talk) 00:14, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 02:00, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - A needless content fork, an unreliably one at that.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 02:13, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Non encyclopedic, out of scope categorization which will only serve as incentive for more useless, sub-genre, sub-country, and subregions lists. –Ammarpad (talk) 05:08, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 05:18, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 05:18, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete - Pure listcruft. They may be "Asian" origin but there's nothing else in common. Fans of pop-style music from East Asia may not share the same taste for Indian music and vice versa, let along speak the same language, making this list meaningless.Acnetj (talk) 06:05, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per all the above.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 08:58, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per everyone. WP:LISTCRUFT. Ajf773 (talk) 09:25, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, I created this article with the mindset that every eager mind who wants to clarify the position of various countries of Asia on the platform of YouTube can have an access to the article created by me. It is true that there might not be any official release of any article on the web stating this kind of list but it can be noted that there are several articles depicting the tops of individual countries like that of Korea (K-pop), Japan (J-pop), Vietnam (V-pop), Middle East (Arabic songs), India (Bollywood songs and others) and infact almost every region of Asia possess this kind of list. So, what is wrong with that if I merged all those information into one and made a single article for preventing the users from scrolling all those pages for finding the representation of their favourite videos from their very own country amongst the most viewed in Asia or the whole world? The article may look like categorized into a sub-genre but that is only because the general list of all videos only include the "elite ones" (means having more than 1 billion views) preventing others from having a representation in the global arena. It is totally obvious that today the world is globalised. So, the music production by any country may seem the participation of other but that doesn't play with the very identity of the song (resembling the culture). Regarding the negligence of middle east, I tried my best to include each and every part of Asia in it, but I could not make it happen because not every part of Asia could make it to the list. For example, V-pop's best has around 336 million views, J-pop's best have 185 million, Arabic best is more than 600 million views, but it is from a Moroccan singer (and exclusively produced by a Moroccan company). So I could not include them in the list. Well, I am not saying that I have the full editing rights on the article. Anyone can edit it and include others in the future and exactly that's how Wikipedia works. Regarding the breach of the very rights of Wikipedia, I have not made this article for using any propaganda or with wrong mindset or intention. If anybody feels so, then he has the full rights regarding molding the article in the way it suits an encyclopediac content and making it fruitful for others.


 * Thank you for your kind attention. Rishu Shukla (talk) 00:41, 29 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment - What hasn't been explained is why such as list. I still can't find the usefulness of such list. People who enjoy K-pop are more likely to enjoy American pop music than Bollywood songs. Different countries have different population, with some much more than others. Other countries share culture and language with others (like Arabic), while some are not (such as Japan). Also, YouTube's market penetrations are not the same. Some countries may have strong alternatives for videos while some have none. Acnetj (talk) 02:16, 30 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Defining precisely, the resemblence of culture and languages among different nations, population level of different countries determining the number of views, popularity of that music industry, penetration power of YouTube in different countries and alternatives for such videos etc. are those basic factors which are applied to all the sub-categories of YouTube articles across Wikipedia. Well, there are more people in this world who recognize English as either their first or second language as compared to either German or French. So, they are more likely to listen songs in english language and resemble with the english pop culture. Therefore contributing greater number of views for those videos (Although there are exceptions like Despacito, Gangnam Style, but they are just 1-2% of the whole music industry). Similarly, the population level of India is huge compared to the combined population level of many countries in Asia. But, even though, the views of Indic videos are not as much as K-pop, English songs, etc. As one can notice that YouTube is totally banned in China. That's why even having a humongous population, it does not feature in any of such lists on global arena. Therefore it may be noted that all the wikipedia articles are not representing the whole part of the globe, which means they are all incorrect in one way or other and if they are not, then my article is also right in each and every way as per the general notion followed by all such articles on Wikipedia. Representing more than, half of the human population, it is totally correct to mention list which represents the different countries of Asia on YouTube. So, please try to undetstand the credibility of the article and support its existence.Rishu Shukla (talk) 10:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)


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